Upgrading Mainboard, can I make a new installation?

Emal011 · 20. März 2016

Hello folks,

I'm trying to upgrade my Mainboard to a better one, but I'm stuck in one problem, can I install OMV and then just add my hardisks without problem? I don't want to lose the information in my hdd's but I think for better performance I have to install OMV again. Is a safe procedure? Should I have to be worry about something?

Thanks in advance.

ML

davidh2k · 20. März 2016

Zitat von Emal011

can I install OMV and then just add my hardisks without problem?

Yes.

Zitat von Emal011

Is a safe procedure? Should I have to be worry about something?

Just attach your OS Disk while installing. Afterwards attach your attach your data disks.

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 20. März 2016

Well funny thing, my "new" mainboard doesn´t have a video output.. no VGA, or DVI..etc...

I read a post with the same problem, and a solution was:

Zitat

No need to reinstall. rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot. If that doesn't fix it, run omv-firstaid

What could happend if I turn my pc on? Can I see what happend via ssh? The only way to have a video output is buying a video card and today is not the kind of day to do that...

gderf · 20. März 2016

Do you have a serial port? That's how I deal with not having a keyboard and monitor attached before the network and sshd start.

rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and rebooting is a solution for moving an old OMV install to a new machine that has a different network card. It does nothing for video.

tekkb · 20. März 2016

Linux is not like Windows. You do not need to reinstall it to get it working on another motherboard.

davidh2k · 20. März 2016

Zitat von Emal011

The only way to have a video output is buying a video card and today is not the kind of day to do that...

It may be that your mainboard is unable to boot without with a GPU inserted...

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 20. März 2016

Zitat von davidh2k

It may be that your mainboard is unable to boot without with a GPU inserted...

Greetings
David

OK, thanks for the advice... I will buy some cheap one tomorrow

Emal011 · 29. März 2016

Well at the beginning was actually everything working fine, just a couple of days ago my NAS start to running very unstable. Even if I'm not using it, start the CPU-Fan to run very high. It was understandable when I was watching some HD 1080 video, but even in idle modus? It was if something is running in background, but nothing it is...

There's something that went wrong? Should install OMV again? the last time I just made an first-aid setup... Even worse is, that my old setup was better than this one, quite as no one...

davidh2k · 29. März 2016

Rather than reinstalling right away, I would actually investigate why is the CPU Cooler so active? Is the temp of the CPU gooing up, even without load? Is there maybe load on the system you don't know about?

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 29. März 2016

But what could be? I didn't install nothing else, just change Mainboard, Prozessor and RAM. And thonk with more power(cpu) everything should be better..

How can I follow the CPU temperature? The dashboard doesn't show those settings..

davidh2k · 29. März 2016

Via commandline.

Install lm-sensors via apt-get install lm-sensors

Then you can pull up the cpu temp via sensors

This will show you your current CPU temperature.

Also, you might want to install htop and run the equivalent command to look for CPU load.

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 31. März 2016

ok, I made what you recommend me, for the test I watched a video in 1080.

from sensors:

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22:40
root@HomeServer:~# sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage:      +1.41 V  (min =  +0.85 V, max =  +1.60 V)
 +3.3 Voltage:      +3.38 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
 +5 Voltage:        +4.96 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
 +12 Voltage:      +12.23 V  (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed:     4623 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed:   1243 RPM  (min = 1800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CPU Temperature:    +56.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
MB Temperature:     +37.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)


k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:   +55.0°C  
Core1 Temp:   +49.0°C  


00:22
root@HomeServer:~# sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage:      +1.41 V  (min =  +0.85 V, max =  +1.60 V)
 +3.3 Voltage:      +3.38 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
 +5 Voltage:        +5.00 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
 +12 Voltage:      +12.23 V  (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed:     4299 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed:   1240 RPM  (min = 1800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CPU Temperature:    +52.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
MB Temperature:     +38.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)


k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:   +53.0°C  
Core1 Temp:   +47.0°C  


00:30
root@HomeServer:~# sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage:      +1.14 V  (min =  +0.85 V, max =  +1.60 V)
 +3.3 Voltage:      +3.39 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
 +5 Voltage:        +5.00 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
 +12 Voltage:      +12.30 V  (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed:     3082 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =  800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed:   1229 RPM  (min = 1800 RPM, max = 7200 RPM)
CPU Temperature:    +37.0°C  (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
MB Temperature:     +38.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)


k8temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Core0 Temp:   +37.0°C  
Core1 Temp:   +34.0°C

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and from cpuload:

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1  [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||98.0%]     Tasks: 50, 79 thr; 4 running
  2  [||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||98.7%]     Load average: 2.41 2.45 2.19 
  Mem[|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||504/3965MB]     Uptime: 00:52:05
  Swp[                                         0/1209MB]


  PID USER      PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
 4779 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 S 194.  6.6 51:01.26 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4784 plex       30  10  494M  262M 13936 R 38.0  6.6 10:02.62 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4785 plex       30  10  494M  262M 13936 R 40.0  6.6 10:02.56 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4783 plex       30  10  494M  262M 13936 S 37.0  6.6 10:00.50 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4786 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 S 15.0  6.6  4:25.75 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4788 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 S 13.0  6.6  3:27.20 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4789 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 S 14.0  6.6  3:26.73 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4787 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 R 13.0  6.6  3:26.09 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 2683 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  1.0  1.6  0:41.80 ./Plex Media Server
 2886 plex       35  15  347M 51872 10812 S  0.0  1.3  0:12.38 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserv
 4790 plex       20   0  494M  262M 13936 S  0.0  6.6  0:06.27 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plex New Transcoder -
 4746 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:05.35 ./Plex Media Server
 4747 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:04.70 ./Plex Media Server
 2880 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:03.47 ./Plex Media Server
 2879 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:03.41 ./Plex Media Server
 4764 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:03.04 ./Plex Media Server
 4765 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:03.04 ./Plex Media Server
 2930 plex       20   0  347M 51872 10812 S  0.0  1.3  0:03.02 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserv
 3716 plex       20   0  347M 51872 10812 S  0.0  1.3  0:02.78 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserv
 2858 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:02.69 ./Plex Media Server
 2950 plex       20   0  337M 36432 25172 S  0.0  0.9  0:01.48 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Plex DLNA Server
 2592 root       20   0  219M  4264  3320 S  0.0  0.1  0:01.15 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /va
    1 root       20   0 10664  1628  1492 S  0.0  0.0  0:01.08 init [2]
 2932 plex       35  15  347M 51872 10812 S  0.0  1.3  0:01.03 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserv
 2447 root       20   0  195M  2912  2312 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.92 /usr/bin/rrdcached -l unix:/var/run/rrdcached.sock -j /v
 2743 root       20   0 40740  3004  2408 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.74 /usr/bin/monit -c /etc/monit/monitrc
 2941 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.63 ./Plex Media Server
 2602 root       20   0  195M  2912  2312 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.55 /usr/bin/rrdcached -l unix:/var/run/rrdcached.sock -j /v
 2911 root       -2   0  4168  2112  1764 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.54 /usr/sbin/watchdog
 2716 root       20   0  9816  2984  2200 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.46 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/autoshutdown.sh
 2599 root       20   0  219M  4264  3320 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.39 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /va
 4739 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.39 ./Plex Media Server
 2543 minidlna   20   0  132M 15816  3760 S  0.0  0.4  0:00.37 /usr/sbin/minidlnad -f /etc/minidlna.conf -P /run/minidl
 4802 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.37 ./Plex Media Server
 5733 root       20   0 24024  3488  2480 R  0.0  0.1  0:00.36 htop
 4743 plex       20   0  507M 64644 36660 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.33 ./Plex Media Server
 2552 minidlna   39  19  132M 15816  3760 S  0.0  0.4  0:00.28 /usr/sbin/minidlnad -f /etc/minidlna.conf -P /run/minidl
 2655 root       20   0 88268 14292  4720 S  0.0  0.4  0:00.27 omv-engined
 2595 root       20   0  219M  4264  3320 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.21 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /va
 2596 root       20   0  219M  4264  3320 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.19 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /va
 2628 www-data   20   0 64708  3432  2176 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.18 nginx: worker process
 2597 root       20   0  219M  4264  3320 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.17 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /va
 2629 www-data   20   0 64708  3432  2176 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.17 nginx: worker process
F1Help  F2Setup F3SearchF4FilterF5Tree  F6SortByF7Nice -F8Nice +F9Kill  F10Quit

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The results are telling me, that plex is using more of 100% of cpu?

davidh2k · 31. März 2016

Can you post comparision of stats of idle and another time 5 minutes after a fresh boot?

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 31. März 2016

thanks for your help, I will do it tonight, i tried yesterday but for some limits(text) reasons i couldn't uploaded.

Edit:
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It could be that the problem of overloading from plex is because I'm using it from a PS3 console too? If I don't remember wrong, when I use plex from my SmartTV, my Nas doesn't start to sound like a jet engine!??

Anyways, the 194% is not really normal. I would take a look tonight..

Emal011 · 31. März 2016

Ok so I made 3 measures, one right after started, one after 5min, and another after watching a video from Plex(10min 720, 5.1, subs), but this time from my PC.

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root@HomeServer:~# htop


  1  [|||                                                                                           2.0%]     Tasks: 51, 60 thr; 1 running
  2  [||                                                                                            1.3%]     Load average: 0.26 0.15 0.06
  Mem[|||||||||||||                                                                           202/3965MB]     Uptime: 00:01:50
  Swp[                                                                                          0/1209MB]


  PID USER      PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
 3177 root       20   0 24676  4344  2732 R  1.0  0.1  0:00.76 htop
 2883 plex       35  15  351M 49576 10600 S  0.0  1.2  0:04.83 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-cece46d/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Versions/2/Python/bootstrap.py
 2374 root       20   0  119M  3120  2360 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.06 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5
    1 root       20   0 10664  1588  1456 S  0.0  0.0  0:01.06 init [2]
  396 root       20   0 21516  2536  1816 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.04 udevd --daemon
  478 root       20   0 21376  2056  1468 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 udevd --daemon
  545 root       20   0 21512  2256  1532 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 udevd --daemon
 2086 root       20   0 18988  1944  1692 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 /sbin/rpcbind -w
 2104 statd      20   0 23360  2396  1940 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 /sbin/rpc.statd
 2118 root       20   0 25312   220     4 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/rpc.idmapd
 2390 root       20   0  119M  3120  2360 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.04 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5
 2391 root       20   0  119M  3120  2360 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5
 2392 root       20   0  119M  3120  2360 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5
 2426 root       20   0  4116  1216  1072 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/anacron -s
 2448 root       20   0 20424  2148  1908 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/cron
 2454 root       20   0  4132  1404  1264 S  0.0  0.0  0:00.00 /usr/sbin/acpid

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1  [||                                                                                            1.3%]     Tasks: 57, 61 thr; 1 running
  2  [|                                                                                             0.7%]     Load average: 0.08 0.09 0.05
  Mem[|||||||||||||||||                                                                       211/3965MB]     Uptime: 00:07:47
  Swp[                                                                                          0/1209MB]


  PID USER      PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
 3177 root       20   0 24676  4344  2732 R  2.0  0.1  0:07.79 htop
 2727 root       20   0 40740  2964  2368 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.17 /usr/bin/monit -c /etc/monit/monitrc
 3236 openmedia  20   0 87452 11756  7840 S  0.0  0.3  0:02.18 php-fpm: pool openmediavault-webgui
 4230 plex       20   0  343M 49572 10600 S  0.0  1.2  0:00.10 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-cece46d/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Versions/2/Python/bootstrap.py
 2626 www-data   20   0 64708  3456  2200 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.04 nginx: worker process
 2883 plex       35  15  343M 49572 10600 S  0.0  1.2  0:05.62 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-cece46d/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Versions/2/Python/bootstrap.py
 2907 plex       20   0  343M 49572 10600 S  0.0  1.2  0:00.38 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-cece46d/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Versions/2/Python/bootstrap.py
 2680 plex       20   0  411M 58432 34572 S  0.0  1.4  0:02.54 ./Plex Media Server
 2622 www-data   20   0 65100  4264  2928 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.08 nginx: worker process
 2922 root       -2   0  4168  2112  1764 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.12 /usr/sbin/watchdog
 2625 www-data   20   0 64708  3456  2200 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.03 nginx: worker process
 2717 root       20   0  9816  3036  2252 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.34 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/autoshutdown.sh
 2645 root       20   0 88268 14816  5116 S  0.0  0.4  0:00.20 omv-engined
 2596 root       20   0  219M  4380  3436 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.27 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /var/run/collectd.pid
 2947 plex       20   0  345M 36116 25200 S  0.0  0.9  0:00.70 /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Plex DLNA Server
 2374 root       20   0  119M  3208  2424 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.10 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5

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1  [|||||||                                                                                                 5.7%]     Tasks: 51, 63 thr; 1 running
  2  [||||||                                                                                                  4.5%]     Load average: 0.11 0.14 0.25
  Mem[|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||                                             235/3965MB]     Uptime: 00:32:40
  Swp[                                                                                                    0/1209MB]


  PID USER      PRI  NI  VIRT   RES   SHR S CPU% MEM%   TIME+  Command
 2680 plex       20   0  643M 66488 35744 S  4.0  1.6  3:05.03 ./Plex Media Server
 2856 plex       20   0  643M 66488 35744 S  3.0  1.6  0:14.15 ./Plex Media Server
 3177 root       20   0 25212  4976  2732 R  2.0  0.1  0:35.89 htop
 3236 openmedia  20   0 87452 11756  7840 S  0.0  0.3  0:15.67 php-fpm: pool openmediavault-webgui
 2857 plex       20   0  643M 66488 35744 S  0.0  1.6  0:12.49 ./Plex Media Server
 2717 root       20   0  9816  3036  2252 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.46 /bin/bash /usr/local/bin/autoshutdown.sh
 2727 root       20   0 40740  2964  2368 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.69 /usr/bin/monit -c /etc/monit/monitrc
 2883 plex       35  15  346M 52976 10600 S  0.0  1.3  0:09.92 Plex Plug-in [com.plexapp.system] /usr/lib/plexmediaserver/Resources/Plug-ins-cece46d/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Versions/2/Python/bootstrap.py --server-version 0.9.
 2470 root       20   0  194M  3140  2420 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.82 /usr/bin/rrdcached -l unix:/var/run/rrdcached.sock -j /var/lib/rrdcached/journal/ -F -b /var/lib/rrdcached/db/ -B -w 900 -f 3600 -p /var/run/rrdcached.pid
 2922 root       -2   0  4168  2112  1764 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.41 /usr/sbin/watchdog
 5146 plex       20   0  643M 66488 35744 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.62 ./Plex Media Server
 2596 root       20   0  219M  4380  3436 S  0.0  0.1  0:01.12 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /var/run/collectd.pid
 2601 root       20   0  219M  4380  3436 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.36 /usr/sbin/collectd -C /etc/collectd/collectd.conf -P /var/run/collectd.pid
 2626 www-data   20   0 64708  3456  2200 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.22 nginx: worker process
 3019 root       20   0 40740  2964  2368 S  0.0  0.1  0:00.05 /usr/bin/monit -c /etc/monit/monitrc
 5417 plex       20   0  643M 66488 35744 S  0.0  1.6  0:00.40 ./Plex Media Server

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davidh2k · 1. April 2016

Yeah, no transcoding running there.

I guess your CPU is just a bit underpowered for the transcoding, so when your other device it will spike again.

Greetings
David

Emal011 · 9. April 2016

Zitat von davidh2k

I guess your CPU is just a bit underpowered for the transcoding...
Greetings
David

What do you mean with underpowered?

Yesterday I made some test, watching some videos, and again CPU between 32-36°C with very low cpu usage, but the Colling fan was a jet engine!! I uploaded some screenshots.

I dont know what else to do, so maybe at the end I have to install OMV again...

davidh2k · 11. April 2016

Underpowered? I'd say your CPU simply can't pull off much transcoding. It's just not good enough.

To your FAN issue, rather check your bios/uefi for your fan curve.

Greetings
David

Jetzt mitmachen!