Very low budget file server

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    • Koradris wrote:

      Hi all ,
      I want to build a very low budget file server with at least 4 HD.
      I think for example an old mini e itx board with via c7...or epia..
      Is a viable idea ?

      Define "Very low budget". Because for one person it will be $50 and for another one $5000.
      "Very low budget" and four HDDs, sounds a bit strange. I'm guessing that HDD is not included in the price.
      I'm not an expert. I'm just a tourist here.

      - ODROID-HC1 (Samsung Exynos5422, 2GB LPDDR3 RAM, Gigabit Ethernet)
      - Sandisk Ultra 16GB A1 "SDSQUAR-016G-GN6" (btrfs)
      - Samsung SpinPoint M8 1TB (ext4)
      - OMV 4.1.11 / ARMBIAN 5.60 + Kernel 4.14.69
    • Mr.Grape wrote:

      Koradris wrote:

      Hi all ,
      I want to build a very low budget file server with at least 4 HD.
      I think for example an old mini e itx board with via c7...or epia..
      Is a viable idea ?
      Define "Very low budget". Because for one person it will be $50 and for another one $5000.
      "Very low budget" and four HDDs, sounds a bit strange. I'm guessing that HDD is not included in the price.
      yes, without hard disk.
      I have 3 wd 3gb each , i dont Need plex transcoding .
      100$ max
    • Koradris wrote:

      I have 3 wd 3gb each
      What about housing and power supply? A bunch of 3.5" HDD usually requires that you spend a significant amount of money on this (that's why I always try to keep the count of HDDs as low as possible per 'NAS' following strategies like My new NAS: Odroid HC2 and Seagate Ironwolf 12TB.)
    • tkaiser wrote:

      Koradris wrote:

      I have 3 wd 3gb each
      What about housing and power supply? A bunch of 3.5" HDD usually requires that you spend a significant amount of money on this (that's why I always try to keep the count of HDDs as low as possible per 'NAS' following strategies like My new NAS: Odroid HC2 and Seagate Ironwolf 12TB.)
      for Power supply i have a old atx delta 350w.
      For housing i think a atlantik case
    • Well, I don't know exactly what your project is about. If it's about tinkering with PC scraps then you're on the right way (usually those attempts perform poorly and are often outperformed even by the cheapest ARM single board computers)

      If it's about a low budget NAS that does not suck I would better look for an used HP Microserver on eBay...
    • Koradris wrote:

      yes, without hard disk.
      I have 3 wd 3gb each , i dont Need plex transcoding .
      100$ max
      Not much... Building x86 with such a budget is tight.
      What you are planning will somehow go through, but do not expect anything sensational.


      You can always sell 3xWD and buy one large and think about ARM sbc.
      I'm not an expert. I'm just a tourist here.

      - ODROID-HC1 (Samsung Exynos5422, 2GB LPDDR3 RAM, Gigabit Ethernet)
      - Sandisk Ultra 16GB A1 "SDSQUAR-016G-GN6" (btrfs)
      - Samsung SpinPoint M8 1TB (ext4)
      - OMV 4.1.11 / ARMBIAN 5.60 + Kernel 4.14.69
    • Mr.Grape wrote:

      For $100?

      Talking about a N54L: New (to me) HP Proliant Microserver G7 N54L Build... RAM upgrade, boot device, additional drive bay (non hot-swap)..

      Pros:
      • possible to connect up to 6 disks with some tricks
      • ECC RAM (but that's only important for people loving their data and hating bit rot)
      • Appropriately dimensioned PSU (but you end up with 4 spinning disks at around 30W in idle)


      Cons:
      • CPU a bit weak by today's standards (comparable to an entry level Atom x5-Z8300 and outperformed by the majority of performant OMV ARM thingies)
    • tkaiser wrote:

      Talking about a N54L: New (to me) HP Proliant Microserver G7 N54L Build... RAM upgrade, boot device, additional drive bay (non hot-swap)..

      Pros:
      • possible to connect up to 6 disks with some tricks
      • ECC RAM (but that's only important for people loving their data and hating bit rot)
      • Appropriately dimensioned PSU (but you end up with 4 spinning disks at around 30W in idle)


      Cons:
      • CPU a bit weak by today's standards (comparable to an entry level Atom x5-Z8300 and outperformed by the majority of performant OMV ARM thingies)

      It's good for him that he found for less than 100. Last time I checked it was still 200-350 up. Now they are apparently cheaper. ;)

      Sbc have their limitations. It would be useful to get something on the market at a low price with the option 4/6/8 sata ports. These ARM toys generally become unattractive when someone needs more than one HDD.
      I'm not an expert. I'm just a tourist here.

      - ODROID-HC1 (Samsung Exynos5422, 2GB LPDDR3 RAM, Gigabit Ethernet)
      - Sandisk Ultra 16GB A1 "SDSQUAR-016G-GN6" (btrfs)
      - Samsung SpinPoint M8 1TB (ext4)
      - OMV 4.1.11 / ARMBIAN 5.60 + Kernel 4.14.69
    • Mr.Grape wrote:

      Sbc have their limitations. It would be useful to get something on the market at a low price with the option 4/6/8 sata ports. These ARM toys generally become unattractive when someone needs more than one HDD

      You can add 8 SATA ports to ARM thingies, it just doesn't make that much sense since as soon as you want to connect a lot of spinning rust you need a large enough enclosure with appropriate cooling and an oversized PSUs since people use cheap HDD that do not support staggered spin-up.

      So in the end it's always about PSU and enclosure and if the ARM thingy (SBC) in question is not prepared for this in my opinion it's almost always better to look at a cheap HP Microserver or something similar.

      ARM exceptions:

      2 SATA ports: RockPro64 with their nice SATA enclosure
      4 SATA ports: Helios4 and maybe NanoPi M4 soon

      Often the real problem is OMV users misinterpreting RAID as backup and therefore wanting a bunch of disks since believing into 'data protection' which couldn't be more wrong.

      Anyway: my take on this: less disks per NAS. SBC are that inexpensive that I simply use more than one for the purpose (e.g. putting the backup NAS in another location than the main NAS to be more safe wrt fire, theft and other physical threats)
    • tkaiser wrote:

      You can add 8 SATA ports to ARM thingies, it just doesn't make that much sense since as soon as you want to connect a lot of spinning rust you need a large enough enclosure with appropriate cooling and an oversized PSUs since people use cheap HDD that do not support staggered spin-up.

      So in the end it's always about PSU and enclosure and if the ARM thingy (SBC) in question is not prepared for this in my opinion it's almost always better to look at a cheap HP Microserver or something similar.

      ARM exceptions:

      2 SATA ports: RockPro64 with their nice SATA enclosure
      4 SATA ports: Helios4 and maybe NanoPi M4 soon

      Often the real problem is OMV users misinterpreting RAID as backup and therefore wanting a bunch of disks since believing into 'data protection' which couldn't be more wrong.

      Anyway: my take on this: less disks per NAS. SBC are that inexpensive that I simply use more than one for the purpose (e.g. putting the backup NAS in another location than the main NAS to be more safe wrt fire, theft and other physical threats)

      I personally also prefer solutions with one HDD for NAS at home / small office.
      Long time ago in the time of 80GB drives, I used multi-drive solutions but these were different times. Currently even 2.5 you can get 5TB not to mention 3.5

      If someone deliberately chooses many disks because it has a clear need then it's ok. Worse if it is as you say and people create such monsters at home / small office.

      As for the OP situation, it is specific and largely based on $ and what he already has. With $ 100, it will not be possible to replace it with an arm and a large disk.
      Although if I were in his place, I would try to look for a bigger budget. And think about sbc and big hdd and current WD sell or use as external backup space.
      I'm not an expert. I'm just a tourist here.

      - ODROID-HC1 (Samsung Exynos5422, 2GB LPDDR3 RAM, Gigabit Ethernet)
      - Sandisk Ultra 16GB A1 "SDSQUAR-016G-GN6" (btrfs)
      - Samsung SpinPoint M8 1TB (ext4)
      - OMV 4.1.11 / ARMBIAN 5.60 + Kernel 4.14.69
    • Today One my friend give to me (no money) a Intel core 2 duo with micro atx board and 4 GB RAM .
      For Power supply i have an old atx delta 300w.
      At this point i Need only a right case for housing.
      I can build the machine only at cost of case.
      For Power consumption i think to undervolt the CPU .
      I have 8tb of archive ( movies , music and other stuff).
      And the archive is going up

      The post was edited 1 time, last by Koradris ().