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      Hello,

      I'm new here, and would like to share my plans, maybe is there someone who can tell me a few things.
      At the end of this week I get 2 free T5740 thin clients. It has an atom n280 1.6ghz
      At 1 of these I would like to install OMV on, with a single 2.5 drive. it has to be a low cost single drive NAS, and silent too.
      I'll have enough on a cifs share, to put some movies on. the other thin client will be installed with xbmc and put near to my tv. So I can stream easily some movies with a mobile phone as remote and so on.

      I know already that I dont have to expect some high end speeds on the NAS, but thats no problem at all. But with the hardware I have, I want to make it as fast as possible.

      My questions:

      1. Standard memory is 2gb, but had expansion slot for a second dimm. dimms are cheap, but will it help to make the system at 4gb? the atom is 32bit instruction set.
      2. is a 2gb usb stick good enough, or should it be better to use the onboard Disk On Module for the installation of OMV? Maybe faster booting somehow? (the NAS would not be on every day only when needed)
      3. Will a hybrid hdd drive perform better than a regular drive? I have a Seagate momentus XT 500GB which has 4gb nand on it, if not is maybe better to buy new 1tb or larger disk.
      4. Is a SSD maybe a better option, or shall the writing speeds depends on the gigabit ethernet controller?
      5. There is a 44 pin ide and a mini pci-e slot onboard, can I put there a dom or ssd card on it to use as swap or cache controller or is that stupid to do?
      6. Has someone already tried to get domoticz running as plugin? :)
      7. Maybe I will install sabnzb on it, will it give problems to install, I've seen a plugin manual which looks easily..

      sorry for these maybe stupid questions but I'm very new to OMV and hopefully I get some nice answers. On the freenas forum its very commercial, they laughin over this and only want you to get some high end stuff and so on. Nas4Free sounds better but I think OMV is the real best for this kind a low budget setup :saint:
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    • 1: 2gbs should be fine.

      2. Neither options are good. Use a external 2,5" drive instead or get a flash disk which supports static wear leveling. Otherwise your stick will be toast within weeks.

      6. no

      7. should work fine, i will try to run sab on my pi in the next few days.

      3. forget hybrid and go big instead.

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

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    • Hi tnx for quick response.

      For your answer on question 2, the original internal dom (2 or 4gb) are normally used for booting the thin client over and over again, are these really not good for the OMV installation?
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    • Its's flash memory and Debian kills it pretty fast.

      Greetings
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    • OK not good at all.

      Why does the wiki says did actually?

      Minimum Requirementsi486 or amd64 platform
      1 GiB RAM
      2 GiB HDD/DOM/CF/USB Thumb Drive used as OpenMediaVault system drive.
      NOTE: The entire disk is used as system disk. The disk can not be used to store user data.1 HDD for data storage

      ah well, I will see, have enough 2gb stick which I can abuse for this. Hopefully is OMV settings exportable?
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • No, as of today they are not exportable.

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


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    • I can find mini pcie ssd drives for reasonable prices which are dynamic and static wear leveling.
      But omv does use the whole drive for it, what if I install first on usb, and the copy the complete usb drive to a partition on that pcie ssd?
      Or is another way possible to share the disk, its a shame to give away 32 gb for install only
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • Partition it afterwards with gparted or partedmagic. ;)

      Also, could you give me the link where you found the above statement? That flash modulea are okay?

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


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    • ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mini…kingspec+pci+ssd&_sacat=0

      the kingspec drives I meaning, find them on ebay and selected the free shipping ones.
      Look out for the ASUS EE PC and DELL ones, they are different!
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • Sorry i meant where did you found this:

      "2 GiB HDD/DOM/CF/USB Thumb Drive used as OpenMediaVault system drive."

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


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    • aha misunderstood, but in the OMV wiki

      http://wiki.openmediavault.org/index.php?title=Installation#Minimum_Requirements

      I think these drives will do better then usb stick right? cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?…&ttype=price&talgo=origal
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • I can't see if it supports static wear leveling. If it does you can use it.

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


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    • Wear-Leveling Algorithm Dynamic and static wear-leveling :)
      Maybe I will order this thing soon, I'm going give it a try first at regular usb stick, maybe I can clone this to the new device when arrived...shall take some time I quess.

      Thanks for your help!
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • I personally wouldn't try the regular usb stick. From my own testing, I've seen them start acting strange in less than a week. I had an microSD card start failing after two days. Once they start acting strange, you can't clone them either. If you want a single drive system, just repartition the drive once OMV is installed and the non-OS partition will show up in the web interface.
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    • alright maybe is that better, or just patience and wait on the pci-e ssd.
      Maybe I can get them faster in the NL, but lot more expensive.

      so the momentus xt hybrid drive wouldn't be good for this repartioned setup?
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • I'm sure it would be fine but I don't see any benefit to using it unless you already have the drive.
      omv 4.1.12 arrakis | 64 bit | 4.15 proxmox kernel | omvextrasorg 4.1.11
      omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github

      Please read this before posting a question and this and this for docker questions.
      Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!
    • Changed it.

      Greetings
      David
      "Well... lately this forum has become support for everything except omv" [...] "And is like someone is banning Google from their browsers"

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


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    • Right.
      I have my thin clients at home now, and omv is running g by now on the 2gb Dom inside. I searched and it seems to do wear leveling. We will see.
      The momentus is now the single disk, I shall search for a larger one. But for now formatted with xfs, and writing speed is about 11MB/s maybe it can be better I have to redo my network, the old linksys router isn't good at all, and will replace it tonight. Even as my extra little switch.
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      ---------------------------------------------
      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
      ---------------------------------------------
      -----------------------------------------------------
      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • I have used the i386 install, that is the right one for atom n280 because it is 32 bit processor?
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      My HP T610 thin client NAS
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      ---------------------------------------------
      My Thin Client single drive NAS build
      ---------------------------------------------
      -----------------------------------------------------
      I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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