Is OMV 4.x stable?

Zitat von ryecoaaron

It hasn't been officially declared as stable but it is very stable for me and others. Depends on the plugins you use as well.

Is OMV 4.x in a "beta" state where features are frozen?

I always enjoyed new features/improvements from newer kernels and I would also want OMV 4.x on my J3455 board.

Well i just did a fresh install of omv 4 and after updates, i tried to install the plugins openmediavault-nut 4.0.9-1

I get this error

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Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...

>>> *************** Error ***************

Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...

Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:

openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

<<< *************************************

>>> *************** Error ***************

Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...

Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:

openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

<<< *************************************

>>> *************** Error ***************

Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...

Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:

openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

<<< *************************************

>>> *************** Error ***************

Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...

Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

or been moved out of Incoming.

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:

openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

<<< *************************************

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TL;DR => openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

EDIT: I found the solution, while i installed the OS from the iso, i was not connected on internet so the main package was not added in /etc/apt/sources.list. Sorry about that.

I noticed that OMV 4.x is now denoted as "stable" in forum. But I don't see any anouncement neither on the website nor in forum. The openmediavault.org news say that version 3.0.99 is new and the download page at sourceforge says that 3.0.94 is the latest version. Whats going on guys? If its true that 4.x is final, would you please publish some kind of official statement? Or if I'm just blind, please point me to the right location!

I suspect this is imminent; if you're on the main page and go to About > Features, first thing on the list under Core is "Debian Linux (Stretch) OS".

I'm contemplating the upgrade because I'd really like to be on Stretch, but there's still a few plugins that don't appear to have been updated yet that I'm currently using.

Zitat von wolffstarr

I'm contemplating the upgrade because I'd really like to be on Stretch, but there's still a few plugins that don't appear to have been updated yet that I'm currently using.

Depending what those plugins are, they might never be updated. If you are waiting for things that are in the Downloaders section, don't hold your breath

Apparently it also depends greatly on what is meant by updated, since there's a ton of stuff in the Arrakis repos for 4.x on omv-extras.org that have 3.x version numbering.

Yeah, downloaders are one of the things but mostly because I'm lazy; I can get all of them in docker format without issue. But what about stuff like UrBackup? Is that actually updated? If so, why the 3.x version number? Is it something that "just works" with the 3.x plugin under Arrakis? (Note: UrBackup could be a deal-breaker for me. Don't know if I can transfer all the backups that currently exist to a container.)

What about sensors? Nice to have but not necessary; I did like the graphs that were made available though. Teamspeak and Mumble? Not for me, but I know someone who's using Teamspeak plugin.

Zitat von wolffstarr

Apparently it also depends greatly on what is meant by updated, since there's a ton of stuff in the Arrakis repos for 4.x on omv-extras.org that have 3.x version numbering.

Yeah, downloaders are one of the things but mostly because I'm lazy; I can get all of them in docker format without issue. But what about stuff like UrBackup? Is that actually updated? If so, why the 3.x version number? Is it something that "just works" with the 3.x plugin under Arrakis? (Note: UrBackup could be a deal-breaker for me. Don't know if I can transfer all the backups that currently exist to a container.)

What about sensors? Nice to have but not necessary; I did like the graphs that were made available though. Teamspeak and Mumble? Not for me, but I know someone who's using Teamspeak plugin.

UrBackup is working fine. I just built an OMV 4 rig and installed UrBackup and have been backing up a couple of systems already.

All the cool kids use Discord these days, Teamspeak is so 2000's

I can confirm, UrBackup plugin works fine with OMV v4.x

Zitat von ryecoaaron

Yes, when a plugin still has a 3.x version in OMV 4.x, it means it didn't need to change for OMV 4.x. This is good for OMV 3.x users since I don't have to maintain two versions.

Okay, good to know. So, just need to remove any plugins that don't have a match in the Arrakis repos, rather than everything with a 3.x version number. Yeah, I can see that making life a lot easier.

Zitat von ryecoaaron

It hasn't been ported but I think @jhmiller is going to port it.

Also good to hear, thanks for the info.

Zitat von ryecoaaron

After a quick look, the mumble plugin doesn't seem to have any code that won't work on OMV 4.x. I would try it. If it works, I will put it in the OMV 4.x repo.

teamspeak on the other hand has php version specific code in it. So, it won't work on OMV 4.x. There is a docker available for it though.

I can't remember exactly which one they're using, but I have a test VM setup so I'll try loading Mumble and see what if anything blows up. Migrating to a Docker for TS3 shouldn't be too hard.

Zitat von TheLostSwede

UrBackup is working fine. I just built an OMV 4 rig and installed UrBackup and have been backing up a couple of systems already.

All the cool kids use Discord these days, Teamspeak is so 2000's

Yeah, as long as you don't want any control over who/what/where information is sent, stored, and transmitted. Which is why I'm using Teamspeak on a VM for my group of friends - that way we know where anything we send is going to be living.

Thanks for the info about UrBackup though, that really eases my mind.

I already wrote this as comment in the news section but my comment is awaiting moderation and maybe other team members can answer my question.

I really don’t want to push you [volker, omv team] but I’m a bit concerned about whats going on. Would you please explain the reasons for this confusing situation? Forum says OMV 4.0 is stable (for 20 days now), omv-extras.org says 4.0 is stable, but omv website points me to 3.x and volker says 4.0 is not “final”: http://www.openmediavault.org/?p=2260#comments
And in the news is nothing but silence. Whats the reason for this weird mismatch?
Thanks for your time!

Thanks for this clarification. So OMV4 is NOT (official) stable/final at this point and OMV3 is the recommended version. The "OMV4 stable"-tags in forum are also gone now. Is there any eta for OMV4 final on the horizon? (date was april 2018!)

this thread lead me to install version 3 instead of 4. so is that the recommendation for new installs if you want the most stable experience?