Is OMV 4.x stable?

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    • Is OMV 4.x stable?

      Hi Ryecoaaron and or other moderators I see some of you are running OMV 4.015 . Now is omv4 in stable release or not as the online info seems to be a bit dated with discussions dating back to sept / oct 2017 being the latest comments I can find, but when you go to the changelogs linked on GitHub (se below ) for 4.014 says stable as part of the reference tag so is that correct it is in stable release ?
      -- Volker Theile <volker.theile@openmediavault.org> Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:54:19 +0100
      openmediavault (4.0.14-1) stable; urgency=low
      * Various improvements.
      * Improve internal bond interface management.
      * Get rid of netstat

      its all a bit confusing especially when you click on the documentation link and goes to an empty page. all Kudos and many thanks to Volker for creating and maintaining this good product but who is meant to be filling in the documentation page on the omv home site ?

      I am just at the point of rebuilding my NAS server from scratch starting with empty drives and would like to go to omv 4 if its actually stable.






      The post was edited 6 times, last by robin13 ().

    • It hasn't been officially declared as stable but it is very stable for me and others. Depends on the plugins you use as well.
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    • Well i just did a fresh install of omv 4 and after updates, i tried to install the plugins openmediavault-nut 4.0.9-1

      I get this error

      Reading package lists...
      Building dependency tree...


      >>> *************** Error ***************

      Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...



      Building dependency tree...
      Reading state information...



      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

      requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

      or been moved out of Incoming.

      The following information may help to resolve the situation:



      The following packages have unmet dependencies:

      openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

      <<< *************************************



      >>> *************** Error ***************

      Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...



      Building dependency tree...
      Reading state information...



      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

      requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

      or been moved out of Incoming.

      The following information may help to resolve the situation:



      The following packages have unmet dependencies:

      openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

      <<< *************************************



      >>> *************** Error ***************

      Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...



      Building dependency tree...
      Reading state information...



      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

      requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

      or been moved out of Incoming.

      The following information may help to resolve the situation:



      The following packages have unmet dependencies:

      openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

      <<< *************************************



      >>> *************** Error ***************

      Failed to execute command 'export PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin; export LANG=C; export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; apt-get --yes --allow-downgrades --allow-change-held-packages --fix-missing --allow-unauthenticated --reinstall install openmediavault-nut 2>&1' with exit code '100': Reading package lists...



      Building dependency tree...
      Reading state information...



      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have

      requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable

      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created

      or been moved out of Incoming.

      The following information may help to resolve the situation:



      The following packages have unmet dependencies:

      openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

      <<< *************************************
      TL;DR => openmediavault-nut : Depends: nut but it is not installable

      EDIT: I found the solution, while i installed the OS from the iso, i was not connected on internet so the main package was not added in /etc/apt/sources.list. Sorry about that.

      The post was edited 1 time, last by jeff1326: Found solution ().

    • zzz09700 wrote:

      Is OMV 4.x in a "beta" state where features are frozen?
      Even stable versions of OMV gain features so I would say it is past beta
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    • I noticed that OMV 4.x is now denoted as "stable" in forum. But I don't see any anouncement neither on the website nor in forum. The openmediavault.org news say that version 3.0.99 is new and the download page at sourceforge says that 3.0.94 is the latest version. Whats going on guys? If its true that 4.x is final, would you please publish some kind of official statement? Or if I'm just blind, please point me to the right location! ;)
    • wolffstarr wrote:

      I'm contemplating the upgrade because I'd really like to be on Stretch, but there's still a few plugins that don't appear to have been updated yet that I'm currently using.
      Depending what those plugins are, they might never be updated. If you are waiting for things that are in the Downloaders section, don't hold your breath ;)
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    • Apparently it also depends greatly on what is meant by updated, since there's a ton of stuff in the Arrakis repos for 4.x on omv-extras.org that have 3.x version numbering.

      Yeah, downloaders are one of the things but mostly because I'm lazy; I can get all of them in docker format without issue. But what about stuff like UrBackup? Is that actually updated? If so, why the 3.x version number? Is it something that "just works" with the 3.x plugin under Arrakis? (Note: UrBackup could be a deal-breaker for me. Don't know if I can transfer all the backups that currently exist to a container.)

      What about sensors? Nice to have but not necessary; I did like the graphs that were made available though. Teamspeak and Mumble? Not for me, but I know someone who's using Teamspeak plugin.
    • wolffstarr wrote:

      Apparently it also depends greatly on what is meant by updated, since there's a ton of stuff in the Arrakis repos for 4.x on omv-extras.org that have 3.x version numbering.

      Yeah, downloaders are one of the things but mostly because I'm lazy; I can get all of them in docker format without issue. But what about stuff like UrBackup? Is that actually updated? If so, why the 3.x version number? Is it something that "just works" with the 3.x plugin under Arrakis? (Note: UrBackup could be a deal-breaker for me. Don't know if I can transfer all the backups that currently exist to a container.)
      Yes, when a plugin still has a 3.x version in OMV 4.x, it means it didn't need to change for OMV 4.x. This is good for OMV 3.x users since I don't have to maintain two versions.

      wolffstarr wrote:

      What about sensors?
      It hasn't been ported but I think @jhmiller is going to port it.

      wolffstarr wrote:

      Teamspeak and Mumble? Not for me, but I know someone who's using Teamspeak plugin.
      After a quick look, the mumble plugin doesn't seem to have any code that won't work on OMV 4.x. I would try it. If it works, I will put it in the OMV 4.x repo.

      teamspeak on the other hand has php version specific code in it. So, it won't work on OMV 4.x. There is a docker available for it though.
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    • wolffstarr wrote:

      Apparently it also depends greatly on what is meant by updated, since there's a ton of stuff in the Arrakis repos for 4.x on omv-extras.org that have 3.x version numbering.

      Yeah, downloaders are one of the things but mostly because I'm lazy; I can get all of them in docker format without issue. But what about stuff like UrBackup? Is that actually updated? If so, why the 3.x version number? Is it something that "just works" with the 3.x plugin under Arrakis? (Note: UrBackup could be a deal-breaker for me. Don't know if I can transfer all the backups that currently exist to a container.)

      What about sensors? Nice to have but not necessary; I did like the graphs that were made available though. Teamspeak and Mumble? Not for me, but I know someone who's using Teamspeak plugin.
      UrBackup is working fine. I just built an OMV 4 rig and installed UrBackup and have been backing up a couple of systems already.

      All the cool kids use Discord these days, Teamspeak is so 2000's :P
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    • wolffstarr wrote:

      But what about stuff like UrBackup?

      TheLostSwede wrote:

      UrBackup is working fine. I just built an OMV 4 rig and installed UrBackup and have been backing up a couple of systems already.
      I also use it on OMV 4.x.
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    • How about merging previous client backups done on OMV 3, into UrBackup on OMV 4. Has anyone done that successfully?
      Good backup takes the "drama" out of computing
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      2nd Data Backup: OMV 3.0.99, R-PI 2B, 16GB boot, 4TB WD USB MyPassport - direct connect (no hub)
    • flmaxey wrote:

      How about merging previous client backups done on OMV 3, into UrBackup on OMV 4. Has anyone done that successfully?
      I don't see why it would be a problem since they use the same urbackup package.
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    • ryecoaaron wrote:

      /--/ they use the same urbackup package.
      That's good to know.
      Thanks.
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    • ryecoaaron wrote:

      Yes, when a plugin still has a 3.x version in OMV 4.x, it means it didn't need to change for OMV 4.x. This is good for OMV 3.x users since I don't have to maintain two versions.

      Okay, good to know. So, just need to remove any plugins that don't have a match in the Arrakis repos, rather than everything with a 3.x version number. Yeah, I can see that making life a lot easier.

      ryecoaaron wrote:

      It hasn't been ported but I think @jhmiller is going to port it.

      Also good to hear, thanks for the info.

      ryecoaaron wrote:

      After a quick look, the mumble plugin doesn't seem to have any code that won't work on OMV 4.x. I would try it. If it works, I will put it in the OMV 4.x repo.

      teamspeak on the other hand has php version specific code in it. So, it won't work on OMV 4.x. There is a docker available for it though.

      I can't remember exactly which one they're using, but I have a test VM setup so I'll try loading Mumble and see what if anything blows up. Migrating to a Docker for TS3 shouldn't be too hard.

      TheLostSwede wrote:

      UrBackup is working fine. I just built an OMV 4 rig and installed UrBackup and have been backing up a couple of systems already.

      All the cool kids use Discord these days, Teamspeak is so 2000's

      Yeah, as long as you don't want any control over who/what/where information is sent, stored, and transmitted. Which is why I'm using Teamspeak on a VM for my group of friends - that way we know where anything we send is going to be living.

      Thanks for the info about UrBackup though, that really eases my mind.
    • I already wrote this as comment in the news section but my comment is awaiting moderation and maybe other team members can answer my question.

      I really don’t want to push you [volker, omv team] but I’m a bit concerned about whats going on. Would you please explain the reasons for this confusing situation? Forum says OMV 4.0 is stable (for 20 days now), omv-extras.org says 4.0 is stable, but omv website points me to 3.x and volker says 4.0 is not “final”: openmediavault.org/?p=2260#comments
      And in the news is nothing but silence. Whats the reason for this weird mismatch?
      Thanks for your time!
    • Mr Smile wrote:

      omv-extras.org says 4.0 is stable
      It has a list of stable plugins for OMV 4.x. It doesn't say OMV 4.x is stable.
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