Install Duplicati package directly instead of Docker?

  • Mono is a monster. The proverbial poster child of why to use dockers.

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  • However, with a direct installation you could use the most recent Mono version for Debian given that you add the Mono repository to your system, see https://www.mono-project.com/d…able/#download-lin-debian . Nevertheless,Mono is a monster as it has been mentioned by others in this thread.

    However, I would suggest to make some test on the docker and direct install version towards Mono-Version used and speed. Backup speed or or rather slowness of Duplicati was for me the key reason to stay away from this tool. I used the Linux Server Docker https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-duplicati for my tests because it was better documented and had a docker-compose file which I could use directly in Portainer.

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  • You guys are scaring me... =O I think I'll go the docker route, or maybe look for an alternative to Duplicati.


    I did a debtree of mono-runtime on my system, just to see what's all the dependencies. It true, it's very complex. The good news is that it doesn't seem it would cause any conflict on my system. All we see are blue (Depends), black (Recommends) and green (Provides) arrows. There's no red (conflic) arrows. Anyways, it's a beast for sure. View the full image here: mono-runtime.zip


    What's a good alternative to Duplicati? The goal is to backup shared folders to Google Drive.


  • Just go for Docker. It may look complicated but there are great videos and tutorials out there.


    Duplicati is known for its reliability issues, but I haven't used it since a while. You could use rclone.

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  • Hi there,

    towards reliability I cant comment on because the sheer slowness of it stopped the further use of it on my side. although I would like to use it ...

    However, I tried as a next step Duplicacy and indeed, it it is much faster as Duplicati. It offers a free CLI version and a GUI version to be paid. For me it seems a bit rough edged in terms of usability and functionality. Besides that I did not get it to work with all storage back-end I needed. Perhaps you are lucky with Google Drive which I do not use. Next candidate is Cloudberry Backup for me hoping to find peace of mind on Linux and Windows and cross-platform use.

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  • Wow, Rclone looks awesome!!!. I've seen what I could do with PowerShell and FreeFileSync recently. I think Rclone would make a great alternative to FreeFileSync also.

    ... or, if you want all (CLI, GUI, Sync, Cloud storage connection, encryption and compression) under one hood you may try Syncovery for Linux with an intuitive Web GUI for headless servers and CLI.

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  • f you want all (CLI, GUI, Sync, Cloud storage connection, encryption and compression) under one hood you may try Syncovery for Linux with an intuitive Web GUI for headless servers and CLI.

    Not open source and a little pricey ($100) for the version that includes the useful features. Hard to tell if that is a one time fee.

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  • I tried as a next step Duplicacy and indeed, it it is much faster as Duplicati. ... Next candidate is Cloudberry Backup for me hoping to find peace of mind on Linux and Windows and cross-platform use.

    Duplicacy seems a very good alternative to Duplicati. It creates snapshots in time, which I like. I'm considering it.


    CloudBerry seems nice. It seems it's now named MSP360 Backup. They also have a beta product: Image based backup for Linux (Full system backup.)!!!

    To be noted: The free version comes with some limitations:

    The Linux version is 149USD for ultimate (one time) : https://www.msp360.com/backup/linux.aspx

  • Just found an other one to add to the list : Restic.


    Apparently Restic+Rclone work well together. Restic can do snapshot backups to any cloud target supported by Rclone.

    https://restic.net/blog/2018-04-01/rclone-backend

    https://restic.readthedocs.io/…other-services-via-rclone


    I'm sure Duplicati works fine for many users. But I have the feeling that it's not optimal for large datasets. That's the feeling I've got from reading many posts in different forums. It just seems users who discovered Duplicacy are super exited about it ^^. But it's just a feeling. For now.


    I'm quite interested by Duplicacy right now. Found some articles praising it:

    -For large (+5TB datasets) : "Duplicacy demolishes duplicati and rclone for large backups"

    -An Ex-Crashplan/Duplicati user who is delighted by Duplicacy.


    Going to try it right away.

  • Sounds good ! Advantage of Duplicati is the WebUI.

    Good point! One of my projects only has a small dataset. So I'll try duplicati also.



    Any of those backup solutions that can make snapshots but stores them in folders with plain human readable data in original folder structures? For example, we could simply go to the latest snapshot and copy/download that folder to our computer.

  • towards reliability I cant comment on because the sheer slowness of it stopped the further use of it on my side

    Exactly this. I have experienced both reliability and speed issues. And database corruptions evert 2 / 3 runs. Ridiculous.

    Wow, Rclone looks awesome!!!. I've seen what I could do with PowerShell and FreeFileSync recently. I think Rclone would make a great alternative to FreeFileSync also.

    I was using FreeFileSync for a while and worked really well, but I used for different things. I think Rclone's plus is having a lot of flexibility. They're also developing a webGUI.

    I'm sure Duplicati works fine for many users. But I have the feeling that it's not optimal for large datasets.

    I faced issues as soon as I reached 300GB.



    Joseph, thanks for Restic, I didn't know about it and I will look into it!

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  • just a few comments on the products mentioned before:


    - Duplicati slowness on larger datasets: I can confirm this from my test on OMV and Windows 10 platform

    - Restic has a nice cross-platform GUI version, see the announcementin the Restic forum and more details from Relica

    - Duplicacy has a nice cross-platform GUI version which resides "on top" of the CLI version

    - GUI for Rclone: yes, the long awaited but unfortunately still in early stage resulting of GSOC project of last year I think. So I do operations on my cloud storage like delete files/folders, rename, make directory etc in a quick and reliable way with Cyberduck and hoping that Rclone finds a way to improve the GUI. I would not mind to pay for a GUI version of it so that also not that tech-savvy users could use it.

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