Install amule in OMV

  • Is it possible to install a graphical environment in OMV and access it remotely? It would be a graphical environment where an application can be installed.

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  • Is it possible to install a graphical environment in OMV and access it remotely? It would be a graphical environment where an application can be installed.

    Do you mean like gnome, xfce, kde?


    Possible? Yes


    Advised? No. ryecoaaron has advised against this on multiple occasions. As I recall, a desktop GUI will attempt to control some configurations, etc. that the webUI also wants to control, thus causing problems.


    So it may work, until it doesn't.. then you'll be up a creek.


    Probably be better off setting up a virtual machine that can be remotely accessed, but you're getting outside the realm of what I normally do.

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • Probably be better off setting up a virtual machine that can be remotely accessed

    I've already tried this solution, but it doesn't work for me. What I need is to install emule and it works fine. The dockers that I have tried are not quite working. A VM with emule, I don't know why, it crashes.

    It is the only thing I need to completely get rid of my synology after 8 months of changing things. The emule is important to me, I've been with it for 20 years and I don't change it for anything.


    I am considering mounting the NAS with Ubuntu directly and exiting OMV, but I am reluctant. I like OMV.

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  • I've already tried this solution, but it doesn't work for me. What I need is to install emule and it works fine. The dockers that I have tried are not quite working. A VM with emule, I don't know why, it crashes.

    It is the only thing I need to completely get rid of my synology after 8 months of changing things. The emule is important to me, I've been with it for 20 years and I don't change it for anything.


    I am considering mounting the NAS with Ubuntu directly and exiting OMV, but I am reluctant. I like OMV.

    I don't use emule, so can't really help there... I have no idea what it does. Is it similar to mldonkey?


    What about amule?

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • If amule works... (just some googling, it looks like the open source version of emule)...


    I tried a couple of the dockers, but they are pretty old.


    But there's tons of instructions to install on Debian Server... looking at the ports, etc.. it doesn't appear anything would interfere with OMV. That might be something to consider.

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • You mean I could install amule directly into OMV without breaking it? Do I understand it well? If so, it could be the solution.

    I will try to follow that path, to see how far I can go. Thanks!!

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  • You mean I could install amule directly into OMV without breaking it? Do I understand it well? If so, it could be the solution.

    I will try to follow that path, to see how far I can go. Thanks!!

    Again.. just from taking a glance at some of the instructions I'm seeing online....


    Yes. You'd just install it directly on Debian Server (look for those instructions)... and it would essentially run "beside" OMV. Remember, OMV is not the OS, Debian is. So if you can find some instructions for a Debian Server install, and none of the ports interfere with OMV , it should be fine (looks like it uses ports in the 4700 range, so it should be OK)...


    It should be doable.


    That would probably be something to try in a virtual install of OMV though, so if something goes haywire you don't mess up your OMV install

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • A final option, depending how badly you want rid of that Synology..


    Is maybe a Pi3 or Pi 4.. install Rasbian, which is a full desktop GUI.. Install Amule on that.. then just mount a couple of NFS shares from your server on the Pi for storage. It would technically be separate machines, but all the data would be on your server, while the Pi essentially just ran the desktop and the Amule service.

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • Is maybe a Pi3 or Pi 4.. install Rasbian, which

    I already thought about that option. I've been trying many things for a long time. I tested it as you say, with a PI3 that I have in a drawer and with raspbian. It works. But I don't like the idea of having two machines 24/7 (even if the PI consumes little), it's more headaches. I prefer to solve everything on the same machine.


    I recently installed amule on ubuntu from CLI and it works flawlessly. So it should work on Debian too. I'm going to test on another PC that I use for backups, my main OMV system doesn't use it for these things. In fact, I am downloading OMV 6 to try it on that version, to see if it holds up. I would not want to do it in OMV 5 and in two months it will not work with the update. If all goes well then I will mimic the installation on my main server.


    You have given me work for this weekend. ^^

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  • chente

    Changed the title of the thread from “Graphical environment in OMV” to “Install amule in OMV”.
  • You mean I could install amule directly into OMV without breaking it? Do I understand it well? If so, it could be the solution.

    I will try to follow that path, to see how far I can go. Thanks!!

    I use mldonkey for years and works fine for me, please see my signature:


    [HOWTO] install mldonkey on OMV5 using portainer WEBGUI



    and here how to install on OMV4: [How to] Install MLDonkey/mlnet in the Docker Plugin

  • I use mldonkey for years and works fine for me, please see my signature

    Yes, I have also tried your docker, I think I have already tried everything there is. Thank you for your work. Mldonkey works but is complicated to use. The interface is very spartan and has too many options. My wife must use it too and mldonkey is uncomfortable. She won't accept any learning curve. So mldonkey does not work for me, I need amule.

    I have found another way that maybe works, there is a docker with rdesktop. Maybe it will allow me to install amule inside rdesktop. It could be a more stable option than installing amule directly on debian. What do you think?

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    I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH. I translate with google, sorry if sometimes you don't understand me well:)

    A backup is like a belt, you will miss it when your pants fall off. Do you want to stay in your underpants?

  • Yes, I have also tried your docker, I think I have already tried everything there is. Thank you for your work. Mldonkey works but is complicated to use. The interface is very spartan and has too many options. My wife must use it too and mldonkey is uncomfortable. She won't accept any learning curve. So mldonkey does not work for me, I need amule.

    I have found another way that maybe works, there is a docker with rdesktop. Maybe it will allow me to install amule inside rdesktop. It could be a more stable option than installing amule directly on debian. What do you think?

    I use as webGUI for MLDonkey a program named: Sancho, that is a very nice GUI for MLDonkey:


  • I have found another way that maybe works, there is a docker with rdesktop. Maybe it will allow me to install amule inside rdesktop. It could be a more stable option than installing amule directly on debian. What do you think?

    That is a possibility.


    If that is the case though... Just do a minimal Debian or Ubuntu docker.. put a simple gui on it (lxde, openbox) and install amule there. If you only install minimum libraries and not all the office, etc... The image might be a little big.. but that may work

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • If that is the case though... Just do a minimal Debian or Ubuntu docker.. put a simple gui on it (lxde, openbox) and install amule there. If you only install minimum libraries and not all the office, etc... The image might be a little big.. but that may work

    It is already proven. It does not work. Same problem as with KVM. When I install amule it apparently works. I put a long list of files to download, and after a while it crashes. I do not know if it is a problem of lack of ram, or maybe network configurations ...


    In kvm I tried it with ubuntu 21.04, with 4 cores and 3 GB of ram. I can't give it more ram, I only have 8GB and ZFS is stopping me.


    In rdesktop, the default docker allocates 1GB to it. After testing with 2GB, same problem. The amule application crashed.


    Saying that amule on ubuntu 21.04 works without a problem, of course.


    It seemed like a good idea to install amule directly on debian (OMV), but after thinking about it it might not be a good solution. I would need amuleGUI to handle it and I can't get it to work. Unfortunately I am considering mounting the NAS on ubuntu server with graphical environment (some simple desktop) and accessing it from the remote desktop of windows or VNC.

    I would still use OMV on a PC that I turn on from time to time for backups.


    I thought the emule would be easy to solve. So I saved it for last. It seems that I was wrong, it is being the most difficult. Against all odds.

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    A backup is like a belt, you will miss it when your pants fall off. Do you want to stay in your underpants?

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  • please consider to use mldonkey instead amule, is several times more stable and use less resources.

  • kmldonkey works on a linux box, and sancho on a win10 box, sorry I really do not understand your question.


    My point is that mldonkey can run on a docker and you can use a remotewebGUI like sancho or kmldonkey to search for.

  • kmldonkey works on a linux box, and sancho on a win10 box, sorry I really do not understand your question.


    My point is that mldonkey can run on a docker and you can use a remotewebGUI like sancho or kmldonkey to search for.

    You never mentioned kmldonkey... I've never heard of it. Guess that caused the confusion.

    Air Conditioners are a lot like PC's... They work great until you open Windows.


  • To whom it May concern.

    Amule-daemon installed directly in debian under OMV does not work. Something is preventing the service from starting.

    The same package installed on a clean debian system can be configured and starts without problems.

    I liked debian. Especially the documentation. If I end up setting up my own NAS it will probably be debian.

    OMV 5, Intel core i3 3225, 8GB RAM, PendriveUSB system, ZFS RaidZ 5xWD Red 4TB, 1x120GB SSD Docker

    I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH. I translate with google, sorry if sometimes you don't understand me well:)

    A backup is like a belt, you will miss it when your pants fall off. Do you want to stay in your underpants?

  • New try. I have managed to start the amule service. It is apparently working and I can access the program and use it. But the status of the service gives me an error that I can't resolve.


    result of systemctl status amuled.service:

    Any ideas?


    The installation procedure has been:


    Amule user is created

    folder / home / amule is created

    permissions are given to the / home / amule folder


    after:

    Code
    apt update
    apt install amule-daemon
    nano /etc/default/amule-daemon

    Configuration of /etc/default/amule-daemon:

    Code
    nano /etc/systemd/system/amuled.service

    Configuration of /etc/systemd/system/amuled.service

    after:

    Code
    reboot
    systemctl start amuled.service
    systemctl stop amuled.service
    nano /home/amule/.aMule/amule.conf

    The options and access of the amule program are configured. Access to the program from amuleGUI on a successful client.


    My system information:


    OMV 5.6.14-1 (Usul)

    Intel Core i3-3225

    Linux 5.10.0-0.bpo.8-amd64

    RAM 8GB

    32GB usb pendrive for system

    OMV 5, Intel core i3 3225, 8GB RAM, PendriveUSB system, ZFS RaidZ 5xWD Red 4TB, 1x120GB SSD Docker

    I DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH. I translate with google, sorry if sometimes you don't understand me well:)

    A backup is like a belt, you will miss it when your pants fall off. Do you want to stay in your underpants?

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