Just ordered an RPi CM4-based NAS board called the Axzez Interceptor. Only $99 with five sata ports. Can't wait to get it! https://www.axzez.com/axzez-circuit-boards
Axzez Inteceptor
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Where did you find CM4? Out of stock on every store.
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Where did you find CM4?
My first one (4GB) came from Newark and I waited a few months for it. My second one (8GB lite) came from Amazon but I paid a little more for it knowing they wouldn't be any easier to find for months.
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Where did you find CM4? Out of stock on every store.
You can currently get them here: https://www.mouser.com/Product…7xhTegWhkiGs2pbU0TQ%3D%3D
or here: https://www.seeedstudio.com/Ra…ule-CM4102032-p-4721.html (only one board per customer at the moment).
Good luck!
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You can currently get them here: https://www.mouser.com/Product…7xhTegWhkiGs2pbU0TQ%3D%3D
or here: https://www.seeedstudio.com/Ra…ule-CM4102032-p-4721.html (only one board per customer at the moment).
Good luck!
THANK YOU!
First link is out.
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Forgive me. but I can't understand where the convenience is.
CM4 costs € 100, the card another € 100, the MINI-ITX support € 10, the Wi-Fi antenna € 10. Then you need to add power supplies, case and accessories.
Assembling a Midi-ITX card by adding a card with 4 SATA ports and a card with 4 Ethernet ports costs much less.Furthermore, the components can be found on Amazon or eBay, while CM4 is given available no earlier than August, in any version.
Why all this interest? Can you help me understand?
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costs much less.
Does it? I already have everything except for axzez board. I definitely don't need the wifi antenna. And I really don't think you can buy a decent mini-itx board for much less. And I would argue the RPi board uses less energy.
Why all this interest? Can you help me understand?
Many people are interested in RPis. The CM4 is a neat little board. Super stable and very well supported. If you buy a cheap mini-itx board, you won't be getting bios updates after a couple of years. If it doesn't interest you, you will do just fine with your mini-itx board.
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Super stable and very well supported.
ryecoaaron love to hear this. "Long term technical support via upstreaming of patches to Linux" is what I had in mind when I said "game changer" some long time ago
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"Long term technical support via upstreaming of patches to Linux" is what I had in mind when I said "game changer" some long time ago
The RPi still isn't running a mainline kernel. And if that is your definition of game changer, Debian, Ubuntu, and Red Hat are way ahead.
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This is the best thing I've seen yet for a RPI breakout. The 4 ports+RTC+CPU (although additional cost) seems like the killer feature.
Not sure about the 2 HDMI's though. Can at least 1 of them be used as input?
At about 4in x 4in (~102mm x ~102mm), this seems like the best approach for anything RPI NAS.
Here's a cleaner view of the board (it was awkward to see on my screen).
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Can at least 1 of them be used as input?
Nope. That takes more hardware.
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Nope. That...
(grumble grumble, old man grumble)... O.K. Fine
FYI for you penny pinchers out there, as of right now, there seems to be no sales tax being applied :-/
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The RPi still isn't running a mainline kernel.
thats correct but RPI foundation is working actively on achieving the goal and managed to have already some parts included in mainline.
Compared to Odroid/rockchip they seem already way ahead
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thats correct but RPI foundation is working actively on achieving the goal and managed to have already some parts included in mainline.
After 10 years, you would think that would be closer. I really don't care as long as their kernel is stable.
Compared to Odroid/rockchip they seem already way ahead
Armbian is able to get mainline kernels working on Odroid and rockchip because their kernels are open source. Not mainlining it is not a deal breaker. Using mainlining as a measuring parameter to declare a company a game changer is not a good parameter. While they have copied what the RPi Foundation has done, they have done a lot of good things and competition is good.
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Armbian is able to get mainline kernels working on Odroid and rockchip because their kernels are open source
not sure to understand this argument, all SBC vendors have "open source" but for some chips certain hardware parts (i.e grapics) depend on "closed source" BLOBs to be used.
Fact (as I understood): 5.4 is latest Armbian kernel version, while RPI moved (like all other Debian based distributions) to 5.10
they have done a lot of good things and competition is good
absolutely true
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not sure to understand this argument, all SBC vendors have "open source" but for some chips certain hardware parts (i.e grapics) depend on "closed source" BLOBs to be used.
Fact (as I understood): 5.4 is latest Armbian kernel version, while RPI moved (like all other Debian based distributions) to 5.10
Not all vendors release their changes to the kernel. I was talking about blobs which RPi has too.
Armbian does not have a single kernel version across all boards. Not sure what you are looking at. The odroid-xu4, for instance, has the 4.14, 5.4, and 5.15 kernels available. 4.14 is vendor and 5.15 is mainline.
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Does it? I already have everything except for axzez board. I definitely don't need the wifi antenna. And I really don't think you can buy a decent mini-itx board for much less. And I would argue the RPi board uses less energy.
Many people are interested in RPis. The CM4 is a neat little board. Super stable and very well supported. If you buy a cheap mini-itx board, you won't be getting bios updates after a couple of years. If it doesn't interest you, you will do just fine with your mini-itx board.
I already have 3 Raspberry PI in production.
Also I would be interested in a CM4 + Board to build a NAS always in production area.
However:
- There is nothing available and if we really want to criticize the Raspberry, it is true that production is guaranteed for years, but REAL availability is another thing.
- It starts from a base cost of € 200, plus the cost of everything else.
- True, the consumption of the CM4 is minimal, but that of a Ryzen processor is acceptable.
I did a quick, quick search on Amazon (and surely you can find better).
- MB MSI B450M-A PRO MAX = 45 €
- AMD Ryzen 3 1200 quad core CPU = 125 €
- 1x16GB DDR4 RAM (Crucial) = 70 €
- Case for 2U Rack = 100 € (a "normal" one costs even less than half)
- PSU = Starting from € 15
- 4-port SATA PCIe card = 43 €
Total, about 400 € (VAT included, delivery tomorrow morning) to have everything you need to manage up to 6 HDD/SDD, 1 NVMe and up to 32GB RAM.
Against 200 € to have (who knows when) only CM4 + Board.
Comparing to the CM4 + Board configuration alone, the cost is 283€.In terms of reliability, you can buy 2 motherboards to replace the first one if it fails and one day I can replace it with a more performing one.
I do not want to argue, but only to understand why such a solution cannot be a valid alternative.
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I do not want to argue
Please provide the measured power consumption of above hardware.
Only with this data a comparison can be made.
Otherwise its just arguing.
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only to understand why such a solution cannot be a valid alternative.
This is an opinion. Cost is not always the reason to choose hardware.
Supply of RPi boards has not been an issue outside of covid. Even server grade cpus and network adapters are hard to find right now.
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I guess I'm truly "First World" as footprint and noise are my first concerns within personal space.
This board is 4in x 4in and can/should require a low amount of cooling, that's kind of the dream right?
Where this might fall down is if you need more CPU and RAM but, where do you go for that in a 4in x 4in form factor with a low amount of cooling? You won't find it (although links are appreciated :-)).
That said, I ordered 2 of these but not for NAS. 1 for a kiosk "Wurlitzer" style jukebox, and 1 to see if it can be used with OpenCV for a Amercian Pool/Snooker strategizer (map the balls and allow user tracing etc..). For a NAS that is only a better version of a current RPI 4 NAS, it's overkill and maybe not this but something with more SATA and USB would be preferred.
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