Honestly, tried the NC desktop client and, as you said it, it's a mess.
I uninstalled it.
I am glad not to be the only one 
this is exactly what I did so far uninstalled it
Honestly, tried the NC desktop client and, as you said it, it's a mess.
I uninstalled it.
The first synchronization is a bit "touchy". Once this is saved, it works fine for me. What problems have you had?
If you want to give it another go:
The first synchronization is a bit "touchy". Once this is saved, it works fine for me. What problems have you had?
I was syncing my "Documents" folder (it is big ~65GiB)
It was always erroring at some point, (after 1000-2000 files, maybe).
(Read on the github that they are dealing with it for the next version 3.4.2)
Then tried to upload some of the under-folders with drag-n-drop. (It would ask which one's to keep, and I selected the one's existing)
After a while, the Server wanted to download the same files to the PC, overwriting them.
It made me believe that if the folder is changed on the Server side, it will change on the Desktop (that is why it is Sync and not Backup.)
What I want is a Backup function from PC to Server and that app isn't for that purpose.
It will always keep those two folders (PC and Server) the same.
If you delete something on the Server (by will or by chance) it will delete it also on the PC.
I was syncing my "Documents" folder (it is big ~65GiB)
It was always erroring at some point, (after 1000-2000 files, maybe).
(Read on the github that they are dealing with it for the next version 3.4.2)
You are right, the first sync is not easy, especially if you sync a lot of files. Actually I synchronize absolutely everything I have on the server, about 10TB. When the initial sync is done I mark the folders I want to have available locally, about 150GB in total for me to download those files. The rest I keep in the "cloud".
The first sync job sometimes fails, but eventually everything syncs fine. I hope they are able to solve these problems as you say. I'm guessing they'll be struggling with Windows here.
What I want is a Backup function from PC to Server and that app isn't for that purpose.
It will always keep those two folders (PC and Server) the same.
If you delete something on the Server (by will or by chance) it will delete it also on the PC.
Well, that's really the behavior I expect in this application. For me it is a way to have the files locally on the PC to work faster and Nextcloud takes care of synchronizing them on the server when I modify them. One use of this that works very well for me is to combine it with syncthing on the smartphone. I have folders synced via Nextcloud on desktop and simultaneously via syncthing on OMV with smartphone. This allows me to modify/delete/add files on the smartphone directly from the desktop.
For backups I use duplicati. As you say, the Nextcloud desktop client does not serve as a backup. Perhaps having a local copy could help in the event of an absolute disaster on the server if you suddenly lose access to all your files, but little else.
For backups I use duplicati. As you say, the Nextcloud desktop client does not serve as a backup
I'm starting to play with UrBackup but have to wait to be at home to configure it properly.
Perhaps having a local copy could help in the event of an absolute disaster on the server if you suddenly lose access to all your files, but little else.
Yes, for what I want, the NC would be just to hold a copy of what I have on the Laptop (to much work documents).
I also have a portable drive always with me with another copy, just in case the Laptop dies on me while I'm away.
My biggest scare about the "Sync" is if by any change, something goes wrong with some folders/files on the Server and the Sync is active, it will transpire to the PC.
In my case, I still have the portable copy but for other's it might not be so.
I'm recalling one situation that I was with Google Photos opened on the PC and I deleted some photos there (without trashbin) and when I realized it, they had been deleted also on my phone.
That is why I'm always suspicious of this "Sync" apps.
They should add a selector box Sync Options:
They should add a selector box Sync Options:
Client --->>> Server
Client <<<--- Server
Client <<<--->>> Server
As far as I know, Nextcloud does not have this option. I remember this option existed in Synology sync client, I guess it will be the same now. I never used it, this ends up complicating the use of this synchronization for me.
"Syncthing" has a similar option, maybe it will be useful for you.
That's exactly what I think NC Desktop should have,
I saw that UrBackup also does the same and was started reading about it.
Maybe I try Syncthing.
Just need to read about it and, most important, be at home to do it locally first.
I saw that UrBackup also does the same and was started reading about it.
UrBackup is creating versioned backups of folders or complete file systems (on Windows, not on Linux) from clients..
It does not do any sync with the client.
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I'm recalling one situation that I was with Google Photos opened on the PC and I deleted some photos there (without trashbin) and when I realized it, they had been deleted also on my phone.
That is why I'm always suspicious of this "Sync" apps.
They should add a selector box Sync Options:
- Client --->>> Server
- Client <<<--- Server
- Client <<<--->>> Server
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
That's exactly what I think NC Desktop should have
You are right, I guess this would be useful for many users. When you mentioned the Nextcloud issue earlier, I was browsing around on github and saw that they have quite a few bugs to work out 
I guess they are focusing on solving all of them before creating any new features.
Display MoreThat's exactly what I think NC Desktop should have,
I saw that UrBackup also does the same and was started reading about it.
Maybe I try Syncthing.
Just need to read about it and, most important, be at home to do it locally first.
Syncthing definitely has this option. It's a little cumbersome to set up.. but once you get it going, it's not bad. The linuxserver container, like all of their containers, is fairly straightforward.
UrBackup is creating versioned backups of folders or complete file systems (on Windows, not on Linux) from clients..
It does not do any sync with the client.
Ok, it's a wrong choide of wording:
What I want to achieve is backup, not syncing.
Case scenario:
That's it.
I believe this is where UrBackup excels, correct?
I believe this is where UrBackup excels, correct?
Correct.
Syncthing definitely has this option. It's a little cumbersome to set up.. but once you get it going, it's not bad. The linuxserver container, like all of their containers, is fairly straightforward.
Will see about it.
I spun a UrBackup docker and it seems a bit overwhelming all the settings.
Need something simple.
Will see about it.
I spun a UrBackup docker and it seems a bit overwhelming all the settings.
Need something simple.
I've never messed w/ urbackup. Syncthing.. like I said it's pretty straightforward once you get it going.
Also, for what it's worth... Syncthing also supports versioned backups, similar to urbackup.
I've never messed w/ urbackup. Syncthing.. like I said it's pretty straightforward once you get it going.
Also, for what it's worth... Syncthing also supports versioned backups, similar to urbackup.
I use urbackup to create file backups as well as image backups of my Windows PC not that I have ever tried to restore Windows 10 image.
I'm curious to know if syncthing can also do image backups of my Windows PC?
Looking at their website it looks as though it only does cross-platform files/folders.
I use urbackup to create file backups as well as image backups of my Windows PC not that I have ever tried to restore Windows 10 image.
I'm curious to know if syncthing can also do image backups of my Windows PC?
Looking at their website it looks as though it only does cross-platform files/folders.
As far as I know, that's correct. Being that I don't use Windows (Only Linux here) and Linux is a free download anytime I want.. I don't concern myself with imaging. I only backup files/folders. If something happens (drive crash, decide to reinstall for some reason, whatever).. I clean install, move files/folder back, that's it. Since *most* program configurations are stored in /home/user/.folder or /home/user/.conf/folder... Backing up individual program configurations, IMO... is way easier than imaging my entire OS.
Usually on a Debian or Ubuntu/Mint laptop.. this whole process will take me anywhere from 60-90min before I'm pretty much right back where I started. I'm guessing with Windows this is a much longer, more tedious process. That's installing all programs I want, removing ones I don't, and restoring the configuration folders of the programs I want, moving any needed data back to my laptop (most of that stuff is on the server, not on the client machines)
I take the same approach w/ OMV, and never "upgrade", always do clean installs. All of my data, containers, etc. are all on my data drives. I've moved all of my services to docker, so it's easy to restore them. When I clean installed 6 last month.. I went from starting the installer on 6, to my install completely where it was with OMV 5, containers back up and running, etc... in about 50min. It would have probably been closer to 40, but for some reason the Debian repo was going really slow on Install...
I know it's not a popular opinion, but with so little time invested in configuring OMV or the laptops... I don't find it worth the headache to image my OS drives.
Obviously YMMV, and probably will.
By the way... given the topic of the thread here... I've actually gotten the Nextcloud client app working really well on my laptop now. I didn't use it for a long time, but I like it now.
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