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  • Hello everyone,

    I have a question about creating a Raid 5 or Raid 6 in OMV 7. I have attached some screenshots so that you can get your own idea of the situation. It seems as if the hard drives need to be “referenced”. Furthermore, the status of the hard drives is “unknown”. Can someone please help me understand what I need to do to create a raid?


    I always answer questions as quickly as possible.


    Thank you for your help.

    Sven




    Hallo in die Runde,


    ich habe eine Frage zum Erstellen eines Raid 5 oder Raid 6 in OMV 7. Ich habe einige Screenshots im Anhang hinterlegt, damit Ihr euch ein eigenes Bild von der Situation machen könnt. Es scheint so als müssten die Festplatten „referenziert“ werden. Weiterhin ist der Status der Festplatten „unknown“.


    Kann mir bitte jemand helfen zu verstehen was man machen muss damit ich ein Raid erstellen kann?


    Rückfragen werden von mir immer schnellstmöglich beantwortet.



    Danke für Eure Hilfe.

    Sven





    OMV Version 7.0-26 (Sandworm)

    Kernel Linux 6.1.0-17-amd64

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  • You create the RAID first, then create a filesystem on top of the RAID device. You cannot add disks already formatted with ext4 to a MD RAID array. If those ext4 formatted disks hold data, that will be lost. OMV creates RAID arrays from whole devices e.g. /dev/sda and not partition like /dev/sda1. You'd have to start by unmounting any drive shown under filesystems that you want to be in the RAID array and then wiping that drive.


    Perhaps consider mergerfs + SnapRAID as a way to combine disks already formatted with ext4 and holding data.

    • Official Post

    creating a Raid 5 or Raid 6 in OMV 7

    Remember that Raid is not a backup. If you are thinking of creating a Raid6 with four disks and you do not have a backup, it is always preferable to create two groups with mergerfs and synchronize with rsync.

    You will have the same final capacity and a real backup.

    RAID is NOT a backup! · RAID is NOT a backup!

  • Remember that Raid is not a backup. If you are thinking of creating a Raid6 with four disks and you do not have a backup, it is always preferable to create two groups with mergerfs and synchronize with rsync.

    You will have the same final capacity and a real backup.

    https://www.raidisnotabackup.com/

    Can you please give a bit more detailed describtion. I'm planning a 4 x 16TB raid 6. I know that a raid is not a backup but i wil not buy another two hdds to have an external backup. What you wrote is new to me so i'm very curious.

    i found mergerfs - Perfect Media Server

    so i merge 2x16 and 2x16 into two groups and have one being the synconized backup? so no need to have a raid?

  • Can you please give a bit more detailed describtion. I'm planning a 4 x 16TB raid 6. I know that a raid is not a backup but i wil not buy another two hdds to have an external backup. What you wrote is new to me so i'm very curious.

    i found mergerfs - Perfect Media Server

    so i merge 2x16 and 2x16 into two groups and have one being the synconized backup? so no need to have a raid?

    If you think, you don't need a RAID when you have a backup, you've never needed a RAID in the first place. You needed a backup.


    If your data is remotely important to you, you should by all means make regular (external) backups.

  • what i need is 32tb drive and something to fall back to in case something happens.

    i dont want to split my data across two drives. i could just split the the data and an resync backup them individually. but i want one 32tb drive.

    now i wonder, i could just use raid 0 on 2x16 and resync them or use raid 6. where is the advantage of mergerfs?


    lets say i have 24tb on the data drive an one physical drive fails, what will be the difference between the 2xraid0 and the mergerfs configuartion?

  • what i need is 32tb drive and something to fall back to in case something happens.

    i dont want to split my data across two drives. i could just split the the data and an resync backup them individually. but i want one 32tb drive.

    now i wonder, i could just use raid 0 on 2x16 and resync them or use raid 6. where is the advantage of mergerfs?


    lets say i have 24tb on the data drive an one physical drive fails, what will be the difference between the 2xraid0 and the mergerfs configuartion?

    With RAID 0, if you loose one drive, the whole array is lost because every file is split across the drives, but it is faster because the workload and bandwidth is also split across all drives. With MergerFS , if you loose one drive, you loose one drive, so not all data is lost. MergerFS, however, my require occasional balancing of the pool to distribute new files and replicate paths

    Asrock B450M, AMD 5600G, 64GB RAM, 6 x 4TB RAID 5 array, 2 x 10TB RAID 1 array, 100GB SSD for OS, 1TB SSD for docker and VMs, 1TB external SSD for fsarchiver OS and docker data daily backups

    • Official Post

    Can you please give a bit more detailed describtion

    Here you can read about mergerfs. https://wiki.omv-extras.org/do…mv6:omv6_plugins:mergerfs

    In your case you can make a pool with two hard drives for data and another pool with the other two hard drives for backup. In practice it is like having two 32TB drives.

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