New hardware, what to do best?

  • Hello,


    I have a other thin client,which I would like to install OMV on.
    What is the best way to transfer from my old NAS?


    The installation disk on the new thin client is larger, now I have 2gb and the other disk is 16gb (maybe partion of 4gb for OS and rest as little harddisk or just for full use OS?)
    I would like to keep my data on the disk for now on, can I put over the HDD, will OMV detect it and give me all data and shares back?


    What is the best order, my thought are:


    Create image from old OMV with acronis and save it to usb stick
    Use G-parted to make the OS partition on new NAS
    Put image on new NAS
    Shutdown new NAS and install harddisk
    Start new NAS ?


    Or is it better to create a system backup on the old NAS en install new OMV on new NAS and restore system backup? (I dont know how restore exactly goes)

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    I haven't used acronis but if I was going to do this:


    - boot clonezilla on old NAS and clone DOM
    - boot clonezilla on new NAS and write clone image to new DOM
    - boot gparted to expand/add partitions to new DOM
    - shutdown NAS
    - connect hard drives
    - Boot NAS and run omv-firstaid to fix networking

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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  • Ok, now I'm doubting between 32 bit and 64 bit installation on the new one, the new one has 64bit support, the old one is 32 bit.
    Maybe other options to get it done?

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    Unless you are going to have very large filesystems, I don't think you need 64 bit. There is no way to use your existing setup if you want to move to 64 bit.

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  • ok so 64 bit will not give me any performance of something?
    Maybe services as sabnzbd, domoticz, or maybe virtual machines?


    And how about build things up as new, connect harddisk, wil it mount with shares and data?

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    64bit on a thin client processor won't do anything for you.


    If you fresh install, you will need to mount drives, recreate shares using existing directories, and reinstall/configure plugins.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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    I'd reinstall 64bit, but that's just me... Its not really that much faster, but I figure at some point, 32bit support is going to be dropped from Linux (some distros already have dropped it).... might as well start now.. :).


    I'm curious about another aspect of this though.. How do DOM's hold up to the reading/writing of OMV? I know flash drives die fairly quickly due to this... What is so different about DOM's?

  • Actually I have a T610 which has acceptable good AMD cpu and gpu. I'm doutbting to set it up as NAS or as KODI device, because my older T5740 isn't well for kodi and stuck on old XBMC.
    The DOM's are holding good, they have wear-levelling algorytm
    As omv nas does my T5740 very well, perform very good and is completly quit. Only 1 hdd fits inside.
    the T610 has 2 sata connectors and ide 44 pin. so maybe more drives but dont think it will fit 2 drives. It is possible but it will be very full with wiring, and probably to hot.

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    Can you put the DOM from your T5740 in the T610? That would make things very easy.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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  • Yes I think so, but it's to small 2gb almost full with omv

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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  • well, I actually decided to use the T610 as kodi box for now, maybe with a second t610 I will transform it into nas.
    For now, a little question about backing up the OMV, is snapshotting or complete scheduled backups better to do....It would be nice if I somehow can wakeup the kodi box at night, and backup the OMV to a disk in het kodi box and after that shutting it down. IS that possible, whats the best way?

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • Offizieller Beitrag

    I would just clone the os drive whenever you make changes to the setup.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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  • Ok, but can it automatically?

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    Not cloning. If you install openmediavault-backup, you can have it automatically backup by put the command omv-mkconf backup backup in a Scheduled Job. This backup is kind of a pain to restore though.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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  • How about this, sounds little bit difficult to setup, shall it work?


    https://wiki.archlinux.org/ind…_system_backup_with_rsync

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
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    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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    • Offizieller Beitrag

    That is almost exactly what the backup plugin does :) See here.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

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  • Ok but restoring is a thing, it has to work of course. My plan is to back it up to the other thin client on an empty disk same size. I will search for a command to wake the other up over lan. And also for a shutdown of course...

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    ---------------------------------------------
    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
    ---------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------
    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    Restoring works but you have to boot the system with live distro like systemrescuecd.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.4 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


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  • No problem, I'm using the hirens boot CD sometimes and offering me this kind a things

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    My HP T610 thin client NAS
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    ---------------------------------------------
    My Thin Client single drive NAS build
    ---------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------
    I'm from the Netherlands, excuse me for bad english
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