I have seen some of those vids and the linked blog entries - very useful. Yet to really explore the power of "profiles" and other features.
I adapted this to get lxconsole running: https://wiki.opensourceisaweso…incus-and-setup-lxconsole
I do believe Brian from the Awesome Open Source channel is friendly with Scott, and gets a lot of info from Scott 
But I agree you can never have to much information, especially good information.
Have you any preferences yet, between KVM and Incus?
Nicely done, I didn't get much further that installing LXConsole in a docker container and spinning up a VM to try it, got side tracked, so easy at my age now
I'm going to make some time for this and give it a go, to see which I prefer either KVM or Incus, even though I tend to use docker.
If anyone is interested in a some deep dives into Incus via Youtube please have a look at scottibyte Youtube He does some great videos, from beginners upwards.
I don't know the answer, but have you tried the 'magicdns' and 'ssh' option in Tailscale dashboard?
I will say, I've been using Pi-hole and 'Magicdns' and had problems, there is a document on the Tailscale site.
Here is a tutorial on running 2 pi-holes and syncing via tailscale article
Since I assume you might use other tools to edit the compose.yml, that would just mean the compose plugin would be out of date (sure, there is a sync button but that is a manual step) or the compose plugin would overwrite a change from the other tool. Just seems like a headache to me and the plugin would need a significant change for it to happen. It would also break existing backups.
No, I get it, I came to accept it after I first asked you about it.
It's all good I've cobbled a bash script that goes through the compose folder and copies OMV files to vanilla docker files for each folder.
I don't see me changing from the plugin anytime soon, but the option is there, if I want to. Plus at the moment there are only a few programs that allow docker file manipulation.
The KVM plugin is a good fit for OMV which is first and foremost a NAS appliance. Incus is a different beast, a container/vm orchestrator (more akin to Proxmox et al.) with managed storage. It doesn't mean there is no interest in Incus, it's just I don't see how it's possible for Incus to run under OMV in anything other than a VM. Just have a look at the official incus docs re: storage and networking:
Fair enough. I've looked at Proxmox, but always come back to OMV, especially now I tend to use Docker containers.
I don't really have a ton of use for VM's or LXC's, if I'm being honest with myself, not sure I want to spend the time updating them, but I may spin up the odd one going forward.
The fact that a forthcoming version of TrueNAS SCALE is to incorporate Incus in some (butchered?) form is not necessarily an endorsement. It's just another twist in the long running SCALE saga which backed some wrong horses and pursued what ended up as blind allies.
Scale is just more than I need, plus I don't use ZFS. I like the video's, but even when the Scale fans say how easy it is to use compared to Unraid or OMV, I'm not sure they've given OMV a good enough run, or really looked at the OMV extras properly.
I'm not sure Scale has docker working correctly even now.
Click your profile... Go to settings and privacy..
Try the other themes. I prefer the dark theme.
Nice one, didn't realize I could change to dark mode, teach me a lesson to have a better look at profiles on other forums as well.
Does make it hard work to see quotes though, but worth it.
It is in Debian backports. I tried it a while back but the web interface felt a lot like cockpit and the command line didn't seem to have any advantages over virsh.
I've not used virsh, but have used cockpit on baremetal, didn't find it to bad.
Upto now, I've mainly concentrated on docker, which I do like, for it's ease of use. I see incus is starting to allow some docker things going forward.
I've also seen Truenas is going to use Incus (doesn't mean I think what Truenas does, then so should OMV) for me OMV is a lot better than Truenas, as I don't use ZFS, and a lot cleaner looking, it also works with my little JBOD system.
For me being a homelab person, I like to try new stuff out and thought if someone else has given Incus a go, then I could save myself some work, if it didn't work or needed a work around for it to function correctly.
While I am curious why the kvm plugin is hard to "read" or exactly what makes lxconsole easier to read, lxconsole isn't confined to the constraints of the OMV web interface. lxconsole seems to have advantages when using a cluster. Otherwise, I just see a lot of unneeded info if you are using a single node.
It's a me thing regarding the use of the plugin, I've not done loads of vm or lxc. The last lxc I did, I wanted to increase disk space, couldn't see how to do it, where I know you can from incus.
Regarding lxconsole, it just looked to me, easier to navigate, plus of course there seems to be more tutorials for Incus and lxconsole than OMV, but I can generally get my round OMV.
Canonical doesn't control lxc. They control lxd. Since the plugin isn't using lxd at all, I don't see how Ubuntu control is a problem.
My bad, I was under the impression lxc was a newer or subset of lxd.
The kvm plugin works with virsh, the plugin itself, cockpit, virt-manger, or any other tool that supports libvirt.
Perhaps I'll spend some time looking at the above as well. Always nice to see whats out there.
Why? I bounce from omv kmv plugin to virsh to virt-manger to VMware to proxmox all day long and don't have issues with any of them. I try to make the plugin easy to use from my experience with those systems. I'm curious where I went wrong or somehow came up a system that is unusable enough to make people use a completely new system.
Like I said earlier, I'm a simple homelab person, who see's something and thinks I'll learn that, and give it a go, sometimes it clicks straight away, others not. If there is more than one way of doing something, then to me thats good.
The plugin is excellent, the same as the docker plugin is as well, but I also like Dockge for docker as well, and would of liked to jump between the 2, but I can't, so I've stuck with your compose plugin because it does all I want and more, but if the plugin used 'compose.yml' for the compose file, I could use either, but I'm grateful that OMV has some brilliant tools and maintainers.
I haven't written any code since I ran a BBS, so I get it, when someone couldn't always see the software as I saw it, especially as I used to hate writing documentation. Which is why I like forums and try and help where I can.
Obviously, it doesn't look as though anyone is interested in Incus, so I'll spin up some OMV vms and see how it goes.
Has anyone tried installing Incus on OMV7 yet?
The reason I'm asking is that I'd like to try it, I like the look of LXConsole which looks easier to read for me than the OMV's KVM plugin.
Plus I like that Incus is not Ubuntu controlled and it seems to be very actively developed.
I also like that there are a number of Youtube channels making video's on using Incus from the CLI or LXConsole.
I know that we have the KVM plugin, which I do have installed, but I don't find it the easiest thing to use, I realise that is a 'me' problem rather than the software.
If no-one has tried it. Before I spin up a OMV VM and try installing Incus on it, does anyone have a list of problems they think I may have to overcome?
You don't have to wait for the solution of this issue, is You're ok with setting static IP directly in the LCX container, instead of DHCP.
I also prefered to used static MAC and reservation on DHCP but who knows when this problem will be solved.
So I've just decided to change network config in container and replaced DHCP with static adress - works fine for few days without single issue.
Thats what I thought about doing, I think I'll spin up a lxc container again and do as you say and retire the for another project.
This behavior of the mac being ignored is new. I have been running a pihole lxc and a nextcloud lxc using my router to issue a static ip based on the lxc mac for 2 years, but saw the same thing in my last reboot a few days ago on just the nextcoud lxc.
This makes me feel a bit better. I've just started trying lxc in OMV, using the pihole example and using Debian 12. I was sure I had it working correct, but took it down and redid it a week or so later, but couldn't get a static ip address, I didn't check the mac address, but that would make complete sense.
I'll see what happens in thread and try again some other time, I running pihole and tailscale on a raspi, and a old nuc, but rather have the pi version as a lxc, I did have it running via docker, but I think a lxc is a better solution.
Well done people for noticing this, made a bloke feel not quite so simple
I totally agree, I often add comments trying to say why I like OMV. For me it does everything I want, I don't use ZFS as I have a JBOD NAS, plus I do most of my containers with Docker, a few lxc, and the odd vm now and then. I run my media server and NVR via Frigate, and so far it's been really good, probably started to use from late V4.
I think if OMV had the ZFS plugin as part of the basic install a lot more people would try it and perhaps find it does in fact do what they want and runs very light (without ZFS, as I don't use ZFS I don't know how this alters the lightweight footprint).
To me that is why most people use Truescale - ZFS, I watch stacks of NAS video's and ZFS is why they choose Truescale, and so far what I can see of the latest beta, Truescale docker is nowhere near as good as the plugin for OMV, not even sure if you can add your own "compose.yml" file, it looks like you need to use the wizard for docker containers, the best thing OMV did was adding the compose plugin and getting rid of Portainer.
People don't seem to get the plugins, to me, it makes perfect sense, if I don't want NFS, then I don't add it, one less thing to worry about or mess up.
Is OMV perfect? Not quite, but it's damn near, and when I've asked why this or that, I've received an answer on why OMV doesn't do it like that, generally down to the base way it works, so be it.
I don't see me changing anytime soon, while the 2 developers are still programming it.
Plus, I find the forums pretty good as well.
Along with what others have said, I think OMV is ideal for docker and vm/lxc, especially with the compose and kvm plugin it all works well together.
I keep seeing people saying truenas scale is the way to go and I've been pushing back as I believe OMV does more than most people need in a homelab. Plus people seem to think having plugins is a negative, where to me its a positive as it means I can make my system as light as I want by just adding the plugins I need. I suppose it might be better if the omv-extras are installed at the same time as you install OMV. But I assume there is a reason why that isn't done.
I see that scale is going to use docker going forward, but how they will implement it, I'm not sure, I've seen a couple of video's using Dockge, which is better in my opinion than Portainer but not as good as the OMV compose plugin. But we'll see.
Not sure if scale does vms, I think it does, but not lxcs yet. I think I saw on a thread they might be integrating Incus, which will do vms and lxcs, plus it's started to do some docker stuff as well. But to get the most out of it, its CLI as any GUI isn't as good as what OMVs is.
risc may be developing quickly but I don't see it catching ARM especially with Apple and the new Windows AI machines using ARM cpus.
Totally agree, seems as though everyone is trying to bring out ARM laptops and servers, hopefully they will get cheaper as more come out.
I don't actually have this SBC, but I like the channel and it's very good for SBC's. Plus I like to put it 'out there' when I see OMV being used in a project. TBH I doubt there are many people who know or want to use a RISC V CPU, but they do seem to be developing at quite a pace.
I try to promote OMV when I get the chance through the comments sections, even against truenas scale which seems most peoples default go to at the moment, I like OMV a lot, but it will be interesting to see how scale develops when changing to docker compose.
If anyone is thinking of messing about with Risc V CPUs, then here is a good video from Explaining Computers on how to get OMV up and running on a RISC V CPU.
I've just been looking at redoing my media stack and found a nice github with a load of yml's media stack yml's Just for ideas.
The tutorial related to the github is here Ultimate Media Starter Stack
But what I did find was a container that I think probably does what you want unpackerr in the docs is specifically mentions rars, I might even spin it up, for a just in case thing.
I do the same onto my SSD, I put both my appdata(10GB) and compose(800MB) folder on it.
I also put the docker folder from settings on it as well approx 36G
Unfortunately, it isn't possible for an OMV plugin to do that in the OMV web interface. I've looked for solutions but haven't found one. Currently the only two solutions are ssh console (you could use wetty) or portainer. I guess I could add something to the plugin to at least give the command to enter the console from an ssh session.
QuoteVia ssh, isn't it just a matter of:
docker exec paperless_webserver_1 "python3 manage.py
OR if you need to have the console:
docker exec -it paperless_webserver_1 bash
Is there any way of checking and then calling wetty with the above commands , if wetty is installed?
If not, I think the idea of having a string that could be copied and used once a ssh session has been opened is a good compromise.
hehe, I like the fact that you start with that, the getting confused part ...
I barley understand docker compose files and the .yml and what not and this seem to be installed and configured using CLI
No you can use the compose plugin as normal. Perhaps install composerize which can convert docker run command to a compose file, plus there are quite a few guides.
But the best way to start is to use compose plugin and when adding, use add from example and there it is binhex-qbittorrent and go from there, or post in here .
QuoteHaven't dived into NZB at all to be honest, I don't know if I ever will actually, this might be because I don't know what one could gain from it. However if it doesn't even require a VPN then that makes it very tempting to try out so at least I can understand what I'm missing out on. I (for some reason) that thought using NZB's is for those who want to be always involved or like to be engaged by it, but then again, I have zero personal experience so far. Also I come from a time where there was either private tracker or public ones and myself I have always stayed with the private ones.
I quite often find stuff in NZB's that are not always available via torrents. I do use a paid tracker but there are a couple of public ones to test with, but I find with Sabnzbd uses full bandwidth of my 60mb/s broadband. I also buy my usenet usage by 1tb chunks which works well for me.
But as with everything to do with computers there is no right way to do it, I use torrents and NZB's and it works for me.
for me dockers way is enought for home users, but have no problem that K8 pluging exist, other power users / proffesional grade, can benefit from it.
Actually I have no plans to use/test K8 plugin.
I'm similar, I watch quite a few youtubes on k8, but I always come away thinking thats more hassle then I'm willing to learn or use, especially as Docker does what I want.
I don't really use VMs either but have been looking at lxc's and watching some video's about the fork to Incus, not sure if Incus will be built into kvm plugin (or even needed) or even if it's safe to install it as OMV is debian based.
