Posts by geoffwhere

    So far it only makes partial sense.

    I'm struggling because of a number of factors, primarily only being able to interact with the system via a browser at the system admin level is both confusing and, I suspect, a sledge hammer to crack a walnut.

    All I'm trying to do is make my music, photo, and some document directories, accessible via the existing LAN and internet. Having to setup and operate other than at the OS level is confusing me. I'm not a novice when it comes to creating and using directories but the user interface from OMV (and probably by extension, Linux) is beyond my willingness and ability to grasp.

    Again, all I'm trying to do is access the files mentioned above, which were previously setup in a Windows format, in a no-cost (possibly Linux), powerful environment.

    Not being able to get to those files as easily as can be done in Windows is causing, what I perceive as, unecessary hurdles in both learning and execution. As previously mentioned, I tried using FreeNAS but it was too complicated and the difficulties I'm confronting with OMV are similarly complex. I had hoped this would be a simple exercise, but not being able or willing to absorb the complexity is unnecessarily daunting.

    I'm going tp give it another shot using something like havetheknowhow.com, Zorin OS, or Linux Lite. I believe one of these versions relies on Putty to interface with the Linux OS and that might suit my lack of Linux familiarity.

    All I'm trying to do is setup a platform that can house and manage my media files for network access. So far I've only struck brick walls with OMV, mainly due to my unfamiliarity with it and its perceived unnecessary complexity.
    On another note, how do I get past this:

    Where did you get that suggestion?


    Have you been using Linux before? The folder structure is different than in Windows. Especially how additional drives are handled.


    Where did you get that suggestion?


    Have you been using Linux before? The folder structure is different than in Windows. Especially how additional drives are handled.

    That suggestion was deducted by myself (a Linux novice) and it was liosted on the Plex site as a download option. I've used Plex successfully before in a Winoows environment, this is my attempt to remove Windows Server from my platform mix (I'm a long suffering Windows user, but the Windows Server environment made me realise Windows is a sledge hammer to crack a walnut).

    All I'm trying to do is have a secure network location for documents, music and photos.

    It looked like OMV might be the right environment for that, but I'm up against my complete lack of knowledge of Linux. I'd hoped OMV would provide a simple to install and use environment that would make my media files available across the LAN (and maybe one day the WAN for my geographically remote family).

    Some time ago I tried using FreeNAS but found it too complex. I just want a simple system to store, protect, and distribute access for my image and music files. Any further assistance and/or recommendations would be most welcome.

    I've since installed Putty but even that environment won't let me sign in to use OMV as a 'psuedo/semi Windows' platform to access and manage my photos, music, and document files.

    I'm approaching complete failure and disappointment

    good start: [How-To] Install Plex Media Server (PMS) container using OMV and docker-compose


    only delete

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    version: "2"

    because actually is not needed

    WOW!

    In addition to my (above) request about what you meant by "delete version 2", I've opened the webpage you highlighted above (how-to-install-plex-media-server-pms-container-using-omv-and-docker-compose), but immediately I found myself floundering on unfamiliar ground.

    For example, where do I find 'CLI'?

    Are the commands shown applicable to Windows (if so how do I get the resuts across to OMV?)

    Also -

    • in the CLI determine UID (user ID) and GID (group ID) of user "docker1" id docker1 Please translate.

    Posibly dumb (or even stupid) questions, but I'm way out of my pay grade here and the instructions are meaningless to me at this stage.

    I'm an amateur trying to setup OMV with Plex to replace my Windows Server installation (which I've found too complex and perhaps that environment is a sledgehammer to crack a walnut).

    But, I can't find any straight forward, easy to follow (for a novice) instructions on how to install Plex on OMV.

    I've got as far as (I think/hope) installing 'Docker' (not sure if this is right and working), but I can't find any beginner oriented instructions on Plex installation.

    Not being able to get to the OS level is a bit of a handicap for me (I'm used to tooling around at the Windows/DOS level) but I can't find any straight-forward, step by step instructions on how to install Plex.

    Am I at the right discussion thread to get help with this?

    Not related to this message, please see above message from me about my current status and ongoing help.

    I''m back and with no more ability than previous. I guess I'm stuck!

    I'm trying to install Plex Media Server for Docker from github but don't get past the downloading of pms-docker-master.zip.

    My Windows file directory shows this file as copied to the OMV Server LAN Directory but I've no idea where to install this file on the OMV Server.

    The OMV Help system gives no instructions that I understand to make it available as a menu item in the OMV Server window.

    So far, I'm way above my head with what I can only refer to as Double Dutch instructions, or no instructions at all, to get this thing working.

    I've created a directory on the OMV Server but I don't seem to be able to find how to make that a working directory for installation and running of applications.

    Also, I've installed another HDD to accomodate the Docker installation but can't find how to get it to install Docker on that extra HDD. The directory system and file availability is totally different from what I'm familiar with.

    Can you help by guiding me through the steps needed to make this OMV Server a useful tool for LAN access to these media files?

    Your efforts to improve the documentation are welcome and appreciated. Unfortunately,I have many other commitments (some of which involve assembling some better hardware options) that prevent me from responding promptly but I'll take your points on board and get back to you as soon as possible (this may not be until next week but I really appreciate your position).

    Thank you for the clarification, much appreciated.

    Just for accurate context (on my part), we're talking here about a seperate location for the Docker installation, right?

    (Please forgive me if I'm being overly cautious, but this is all very different from what I'm accustomed to).

    BTW, I'm looking at utilising a separate disk drive to keep the Docker installation.

    No, I pasted a link to document, where it describes how to populate the settings page. Read the chapter: "2. Plugin Settings"

    I've been on that page for quite a while before I reached out to you. I don't see where it answers my question, that is: "Compose Files" - is this the existing or new files?

    As per my previous enquiry:

    (the exisiting folder (the folder that already exists for the current data that I brought across from the Windows platform) or whether a new folder is required.

    That is, Compose Settings = New Docker File name?; Data = Existing data files

    Sorry if I seem idiotic on this mattter but the questions as asked in the 'Services - Compose - Settings' screen is unclear as to which is current and which is new according to Docker requirements.

    Create 4 new shared folders on your data drive.

    • appdata
    • data
    • backup_compose
    • docker

    and select them in the settings page according the guide

    https://wiki.omv-extras.org/do…er_in_omv#plugin_settings

    Is this the shareed data files you're referring to?:

    Create

    Allows you to create the yaml and env configuration files of a container. Pressing the button will open a dialog box with the following fields:

    • Name
      • Name with which this file will be designated in the system.
    • Description
      • Description of the file to help identify it.
    • File
      • Here you can create (or copy and paste) the configuration yaml file for the container(s).
    • Environment
      • Here you can create (or copy and paste) the environment variable env file of the container(s).
    • Save
      • It will store the created yaml and env files in a subfolder of the compose folder, this subfolder will be given the name written in the name field.
      • You will exit the dialog box.
      • The created file will now appear on a line with the name on the left and the description on the right. Selecting this line will activate all the buttons to apply actions to this file.
    • Cancel
      • Exit without saving changes.


    There is a guide to the compose plugin, that will answer some of your questions

    https://wiki.omv-extras.org/do…v7_plugins:docker_compose

    I get lost early in the procedure as I don't know whether Docker is supposed to be installed in the exisiting folder (the folder that already exists for the current data that I brought across from the Windows platform) or whether a new folder is required.

    That is, Compose Settings = New Docker File name?; Data = Existing data files

    You can read the information you need about docker here. https://wiki.omv-extras.org/doku.php?id=omv7:docker_in_omv

    Wow, thanks for your prompt response.

    I've been reading the content on the website (https://wiki.omv-extras.org/doku.php?id=omv7:docker_in_omv) you referred me too, I'm now scared to almost death!

    I got as far as 'services/compose/settings' and freaked out when it called for configuration of plugin settings.

    The only options I have there are: 'FilesUploadFromW10' or 'OMV_Disks'. The 1st of those choices is the directory I created but I don't see 'appdata' or 'Compose Files' or 'Data' as in the example, and my 'Docker' section is showing that the App is not installed.

    I'm beginning to think this exercise is beyond my pay grade and I may need help specific to my environment, or ditch the whole thing and look for something more simple.

    Any suggestions as to how I could proceed would be most welcome.

    One more question comes to mind: I want to run Plex on the OMV Server and have it available to all users on my LAN (possibly later for the WAN but that's a different issue that can wait).

    What is Docker, and where do I find the right version to install on my OMV server?

    I've looked for it on the OMV Plugins tab and don't get a clear answer. It lists 'Compose' and 'K8S'', neither of which seem to be the Docker I'm told by some unverifiable Internet source that I need to keep Plex and OMV under tight control. (I've used Plex for years in the Windows environment and never needed a different version for this new OMV Linux server environment),

    The Plex site offers downloads for Linux (I presume this is the version that is for OMV) or Docker, which I'm told keeps Plex away from the OMV system workings.

    Your guidance here would be appreciated.

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    how do I login at actual system level?

    I'm probably being redundant in this question as it seems that you've answered my other questions about logging in.

    I'll proceed as it is and try to get used to (having been a Windows & other system user) it. I guess where I'm coming from may be the source of many traps, so getting used to this level of remote server connection may help to overcome prior issues.

    Thanks again for your helpful responses.

    As a user the only thing you can do in the GUI of OMV is to change your password (if the admin allowed it in the users setting). Everything else is done by the admin.

    Understood, with thanks.

    Now the puzzle has become how do I login at actual system level?

    (i) Do I need to do this? e.g. Do I interact with the OMV system through a browser connection, or can I login using the PC and the admin user details?

    (ii) Is logging in possible outside of the browser interface, using a direct connection with the OMV Server? Or am I prevented by OMV to only login through a browser?

    (iii) If I'm able to login at the OMV App level (e.g. using a connect tool such as I was using to log in to a separate Windows system), do I have to first log out as 'admin' on the browser interface?

    Be aware that there are only two roles in OMV: admin and user.


    As you are configuring OMV, you are in the role of "admin". You managed to setup your first shared folder and share it over the network. So you know now the basic concept of OMV with shares and services. That is something to build on and the next steps will be much easier.

    Noted, with thanks.

    This now begs the question: How does one login as a user? I've got 2 users and individual passwords for each, but on changing from the system login (user: admin) only appears to give me a screen (via the web browser interface) with a very limited interface (see screen shot below) I'm getting closer to the stage where I'll need to logout as admin and login as a 'user' to operate the system (or am I missing something?).

    That is described in the guide

    https://wiki.omv-extras.org/do…b_cif_samba_network_share


    What might be logical for you, might not be for others. And vice versa ;)

    Points taken. I'm much further ahead than I was before I requested help, thanks to people like you, and I've still got a long way to go.

    Hopefully, your assistance and results from my response to 'raulfg3' (above) will add to my growing familiarity with OMV.

    dummies like you need to test and play with testing NAS before to use a production / final NAS to gain knoweledge about how OMV or SMB works

    Dummies like me are used to having a set of commands/instructions set out in ways that match roles, e.g. 'Getting Started', 'Establishing Basics', etc. And, in fact that's what I was attempting.

    My source data files that have served me well for decades are still in their original state and locations, until I get my handle on this new (to me) platform.

    And I've still got a long way to go before I switch over completely. That decision will be based on the level and attitude of the 'helpers'.

    I've been a computer USER since the early 1980s, so I'm familiar with the technical aspects of user instructions.

    I'm more than aware that operating manuals or instructions can and should provide all the information, this is obvious and not in contention. However I'm suggesting that settings instructions can be role-based in order to accomodate all levels.

    Technically oriented or experienced people might not see things in the same light as newbies. Choose your point of entry and relevant explanations accordingly.

    :rolleyes:

    I think I might have cracked it - just luckiiy I stumbled across another setting (I think it might have been 'Services/SMB/CIFS/Shares' that I enabled and my PC is now in the process of uploading the files that were originally in my Windows system but unable to be loaded across. There's a large number of files and I will probably change the name of the target directory, but it looks like the data is going across to the OMV system. I'll post an update when it's finished.

    Comment for future idea development: These commands or settings need to be centralised into what's logical for dummies like me.