Beiträge von Jopa

Well, then let's try another way. First with the question, if you installed OMV on one of HDDs, or on a separate drive, before you added RAID drives?

In first case it looks like the HDD, you replaced first, was the HDD, which OMV installed on and set as boot drive, and after you replaced it, BIOS did not find bootable HDD no more and changed its Boot Order settings or just cleared them. In second case, even if there was no need to, BIOS seems to have reacted same way.

So next step, I'd do, is to check BIOS Boor Order or simply try Boot Override one by one. And if this does not do it, "Load optimized default settings" or even clear CMOS completely. At least the latter must BIOS let find a bootable drive if any.

If OMV boots again now, then go Web GUI and there directly to Storage->S.M.A.R.T.->Devices and see, which of devices has status "bad" - should be the same as BIOS complained about -, highliight it and then click "Show details" and there "Attributes". Please make screenshot(s) of the bad attribute(s) and post it here. Further look, if OMV already set RAID5 "degraded" or still not, but anyway you should be able to access all your data to make backup(s). After data backup I'd suggest to clone the bad disk to your new one either from within OMV by omv-extras plugin "openmediavault diskclone" or by using a clonezilla boot stick.

If BIOS is not able to boot from any of the disks, then things get more complicated. Because you either need extra tool (kit) booting from an USB stick to repair your original boot drive or install OMV completely new then. In case of new OMV installation I strongly recommend to use a seperate small (32GB is enough) but HiQ SSD for system. You can add existing RAID drive set then and run all procedures needed to exchange one drive via Web GUI.

As BIOS S.M.A.R.T. check does not tell, what exactly is bad or assumed to be, try this:

Put back the original HDD,

enter BIOS,

set "S.M.A.R.T. status check" to "Off",

"Save changes and Reset".

The PC should boot normally then and you can do a backup of data and system.

The further depends on, how you created the RAID (by BIOS or by OVM). Maybe you can tell some more about it?

Great. And Inter is even a bit denser than Montserrat.

Thanks very much.

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I am currently running OMV on a QNAP 251D. It's a lot of fun. Apart from the LEDs, everything fits.

But here I also boot from an NVME and have left the EMMC as it was, it's too small for OMV anyway. OMV, swap and docker applications are then on the NVME, , each on different partitions.

I think I'll do the same with the ugreen. Unless someone explains to me that there are disadvantages to having everything on one physical SSD.

I read about this, and about fan control not working. But with the 653D I had neither the LEDs nor the fan control issue.

I'm looking forward to try an NVME attached at the expansion PCIe. Still need a suitable adapter card. If Qnap BIOS allows boot from there, then I can use all 6 bays for HDDs.

Don't know, what disadvantages there could be with one physical SSD. Ok, any drive, regardless what type, allways may fail, and then you need to copy your backup to a new device, before you can go on. A RAID1 for system is more comfortable, of course, but for a private NAS I don't think it vital. In the past I used 32GB SLC-SSDs for all my DIY NAS setups (OMV, TrueNAS, XigmaNAS), and none of them ever failed. Not sure, what NVME I'll use for my Qnap, if possible, yet.

Thank you Volker, for the screenshot.

I see clearly now and can tell the "mechanism" of the unreadable issue. The font Montserrat[wght] aka Montserrat Thin actually is the lightest font I've ever seen, and its unreadability has nothing to do with OS, browser, plugins or other software, nothing with font source (local or web), but with the resolution of display.

Think, all fellows, who have the issue, (still) use Full HD like me or even below. And rendering a font as light as Montserrat Thin for such "low" resolution just may result in lines only one pixel wide or even interrupted, making text hard to read or unreadable at all. With higher resolution (2K+ or better) there maybe some pixels rendered blanc, too, but this does not impact readability.

For own trials I searched and installed some of the Montserrat fonts on my pc and used them with Custom CSS. For me Montserrat Light is nice with omv forum, ExtraLight is normally readable as well, but still a bit "shallow". See examples from Windows font viewer below.

Best regards

So, TO is obviously one of the <1 promille of users, for which it does not work, and me another one. And Volker was at least no so busy with other things, that he could not write the second post in this thread. Which, btw and sorry, was just like in the joke: "Everything fine at my site".

And your reply reads to be the same: "Everything fine at my side". And then even: chatgpt will probably help you more.

Great. You declare it as my own problem, or better: the problem of those, who have it. That includes the TO, elspeth and probably others, who were not aware of this thread.

Away of that, I'm more than a bit disappointed about your last reply. In the past, you were a reliable "expert" for me, but now you don't even know about such simple basic things like system fonts...

And again to Volker: I know, what he is doing, and as you mention his family, please tell him my best wishes. Hope, he never will have similar with his family as I have with mine actually.

I followed Ugreens activities and the UDX2800 and especially the UDX4800 (Plus). They are really big steps in NAS market, and if I had not get a bad UDX4800 - that did not work not at all - I probably would be a fan of Ugreen NAS, too. As I'm a fan of other Ugreen devices, nevertheless.

Only, after my trial with Ugreen NAS did not work, I looked around a bit more and found a Qnap NAS family, that Ugreen obviously tried to shift to the next level: the TS-x53D family. That are some years older already and still based on a J4125, but have already 2.5GbE and are fully open for 3rd party OSses, even without the need to overwrite the original eMMC. Maybe the smallest device TS-253D is too small for this, but the TS-453D and -653D are noteworthy. As one can let them boot from one of their bays without changing any bit of their eMMC.

For details please search for "Qnap TS-x53D - nice 2.5GbE hardware to run OMV" in the forum. I admit, that I was quite sure, that Ugreen was the first with 2.5GbE for their NAS. Until I realized, that Qnap had it already some 5 years before.,,

So well, let's run OMV this speed nativly. While others still run (1)GbE.

I still spent some time looking after the Montserrat font. Just to find out, that this is already a family of 18 members now.

Find details at github.com/JulietaUla/Montserrat/

Shall I really download them all and rename one after the other to simply "Montserrat" to find out the one that fits for the omv forum? Or should I better spend my time with looking for system global substitutions for all "Montserrat" fonts? The existing as well as future.....

Sorry, but I just cannot beleive, that even Volker does not seem to be engaged to make his omv forum comfortably readable for everyone.

Best regards

I overlooked to mention, that windows tells you anything about the fons installed. And my told me, that Montserrat was not installed, So I searched for that font and got one "Standard" and "Bold" couple, but this did not do it. So again: Which is the right Montserrat font, I can download to overcome the unreadable issue?

You are right. And btw: I'm a developer for my own. More hardware but not only mcu software, too. And having some 280 fonts installed on my home pc and some 500 on my pc at work. But as both are windows machines, I'm still not knowing, what "standard" Linux fonts are. And where I can find the right Montserrat download, that would do the job and not urge me to use workarounds like plugins.

And no. I won't install Debian or Ubuntu. I'm using latest Waterfox - a branch of Firefox, coming out to reduce it's absolutely to frequent updates - which is using same mozilla repos. And for me everthing is working fine. Except websites using Montserrat font.

Hi all, who want to speed up your NAS to 2.5G,

after I tried a bit with my Synology DS620slim and USB-to-2.5GbE-adapters - quite promissing - and had to give back a not working Ugreen DSX4800, I got an exceptional quote for a Qnap TS-653D including 5x14TB seagate EXOSs, which I accepted, and which turned out to be kind of a bingo.

Because that Qnap, even if already some years old, has two native 2.5GbE ports, an intel J4125 SoC and a standard BIOS setting one able to boot from any EFI disk attached.

As the first, I plugged in a monitor at the HDMI port, a keyboard at one of the USB2 ports and my Ventoy multi ISO stick at an USB3 port and pressed F7 after the first beep. Amazingly the boot menu allowed me to boot from Ventoy stick quite normally, and I could run memtest86 with or without "+", gparted, and even HBCD PE (Win11) and a live Linux (elementary OS without any problems. Ok, with all QTS formatted drives plugged in there were not enough drive letters left for HBCD PE, and most of its tools were missing, but there was nothing keeping it from running basically. Funny enough. I actually had not thought, that a NAS hardware would run a full featured PC OS so completely at all.

By that first trials I had noticed, that the BIOS could not only boot from "QNAP OS" and my stick as "UEFI OS", but still from a "P0". So I installed OMV on a separate SSD, and plugged this into one bay ofter the other, until it was offered as "P0" in bay5 and as "P1" in bay6. With OMV ssd in bay6 I went to BIOS and set boot order accordingly, rebootet and - had OMV booting. Without having anything of original Qnap installation touched, except for the BIOS settings.

After this, I removed OMV ssd and booted QNAP OS again, saved the config, removed all disks and put an old but known good 500GB drive into bay1, to which I let install the actual Qnap software - just to set me able to check for later firmware updates, meaning espacially BIOS updates. For this, I just need to plug out all OMV drives, plug in the QTS drive, monitor and keyboard and let run QNAP OS again. If there is a new firmware update, I can do it, and then go back to OVM.

Maybe there is yet another way to add a ssd/nvme with OMV by using a ssd adapter card in the pcie slot of the TS-x53D. But this is not clear at the moment. Some folks say, it is, other say no chance except with (expensive) original Qnap adapters only. I will just try out and keep you informed.

Best regards

Thank you, theking2, very much for showing a way out of this. Even if it's just an intermediate solution - I see plugins like elspeth - it helps for a meantime.

To all, who don't have any problems: There is a joke about developers always stating "On my system there are no issues at all..." And this issue is probably quite easy to solve, if anyone, developer or not, just would tell, which font exactly we, who have the problem, need to add to our systems.

It's not to blame anyone, but missing fonts are something, you are not aware of, until they get annoying. Like in this case, or even worse, as I had at work recently: There was a .xls from a customer, which my office was able to show well on monitor, but when trying to print, I got just blanc pages. Because office could substitute the font used, but not installed to a similar, but printer (driver) could not. Nowing about and working with font for 45 years now, I just added the font used in that .xls to my some 500 already existing and could print that table.

Only in this case I was not able to find the right Montserrat font to add yet.

Yes, the Ugreen NASync HW is great.

At the moment there are 5 variants with 2 to 8 HDD/SSD bays plus one neat desktop variant with 4 NVMe slots.

They all are driven by state-of-the-art CPUs with (officially) 16 to 64 GB RAM and have one 2.5GbE port (the 2 bay variant) upto two 10GbE ports (6 and 8 bay variants).

And all have a HDMI port to connect a monitor to run procedure described by tesme33.

BTW you can use the origninal system SSD/eMMC for OMV or other NAS software, too, and so keep the m.2 SSD slots for cache or an extra RAID.

I was lucky to buy a DXP4800 today for a very nice price and look forward to install OMV on it. I'm not sure yet, if I'll set up proxmox at first and run OMV as a VM or install OMV at first and then give it the proxmox kernel. Think, I'll try out and see.

What ist your real interest in TRIM? Which actually was a feature used in times, when ssd's controllers were not able to manage erased areas for themselves. But that times are gone, and nearly all ssds, that came out in, say, the past 3 years don't need no external TRIM no more. OSses on the other hand alway must still work with much older hardware, and so will, likely, TRIM all ssds they find for the next 10 years.

Best regards

Hi,

guess it's the same with AMD and intel - the latter I know better: Real nice boards for NAS purposes with an embedded cpu are very expensive. Even on 2nd hand market, if someone 's there sell to them at all.

So I got used to look for older non-embedded server solutions like the board I use with my actual setups. The intel 1150 socket might not be the latest, of course, but at server level time goes by slower, and so I think, my setups are not so far away from cutting edge. At least not for my own NAS needs.

And costs are far below those for any of those nice embedded solutions. E.g. mainboard, cpu, ram and SAS controller of my main NAS were still below 250$ all together. Ok, they may not spec the low power of an embedded solution - although the Xeon E3-1220L is near that level - but I do not like to spend more than twice for the mainboard with an embedded cpu but still without ram, running my budget to it's end and leaving no money no more for a similar high end power supply that does not waist the spared powe. Or to say: For a NAS, I want to run 24/365, for me it is a must to choose a psu with at least 80+ gold grade. Just because lower grades by the time would eat up more than any power, my cpu, ram, chipset and extra controllers could spare because of ineffiency. And those psus cost as well. Only not so much more as a server level mainboard with an embedded cpu.

Btw there is a nice site out there listing all known 80+ certified power supply units, where I find and can compare all psus of interest:
https://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx

Hope I could help.

Hi,

guess it's the same with AMD and intel - the latter I know better: Real nice boards for NAS purposes with an embedded cpu are very expensive. Even on 2nd hand market, if someone 's there sell to them at all.

So I got used to look for older non-embedded server solutions like the board I use with my actual setups. The intel 1150 socket might not be the latest, of course, but at server level time goes by slower, and so I think, my setups are not so far away from cutting edge. At least not for my own NAS needs.

And costs are far below those for any of those nice embedded solutions. E.g. mainboard, cpu, ram and SAS controller of my main NAS were still below 250$ all together. Ok, they may not spec the low power of an embedded solution - although the Xeon E3-1220L is near that level - but I do not like to spend more than twice for the mainboard with an embedded cpu but still without ram, running my budget to it's end and leaving no money no more for a similar high end power supply that does not waist the spared powe. Or to say: For a NAS, I want to run 24/365, for me it is a must to choose a psu with at least 80+ gold grade. Just because lower grades by the time would eat up more than any power, my cpu, ram, chipset and extra controllers could spare because of ineffiency. And those psus cost as well. Only not so much more as a server level mainboard with an embedded cpu.

Btw there is a nice site out there listing all known 80+ certified power supply units, where I find and can compare all psus of interest:
https://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx

Hope I could help.

Hi,

where do you live? I'd give away an Asus P9D-I server board (https://www.asus.com/de/Commer…ervers-Workstations/P9DI/) for not so much. With an i3-4x30T and 16GB ECC ram it has power enough for all you are planning. I also could add an Asus U3S6 controller card, so there would be 4x SATA3 and 2x SATA2 ports over all.

Please PM if you are interested.

Best regards

Hi all,
with both of my omv installations (4 and experimentally 5, see details below) I had the same irritation: The enpXs0 network interfaces (my board has two of them), enp1S0 and enp2S0 by intallation, after some time suddenly changed to enp2s0 and enp3s0. In both cases, omv came up with no accessible network address no more, and I needed to connect monitor and keyboard again to fix it via omv-firstaid.
I wonder, if someone out there can tell me, why this happens.
Could it be because of the BMC included in the Aspeed ATS2300 chip on the Asus P9D-I, btw a really nice feature of this board? But if, why does it not come up from the start, but somewhen later after a reboot or a shutdown? And why does it keep omv or debian from defaulting to DHCP and rather leaves system with no active network interface at all?
I just like to understand.
Best regards

Hi Thomas,

thank you for your replies, helping me to understand write hole issue another bit deeperly.

Remains just one thing re this forum: How can I mark my thread as solved by my own, or must a moderator do it?

Best regards

Ahm, you see why I do not like virtual machines running on my servers?

Fine, that everything works well now. And thanks for information.

Best regards