What are the Best Practices for moving from 4 to current build (6)

  • Thank you for your feedback. There's a layer of culture that noobs like myself don't see. I come across about 20 questions when attempting to add what this community calls "a signature" (eg. 'ryecoaaron' seems to have an elaborate one including plugins) while 'crashtest' doesn't seem to have one at all, yet is also a member of this community. Does this mean that 'crashtest' only moderates for certain issues, if at all? ... or is 'moderator' an attestation of trustworthiness full-stop. It's actually pretty confusing for those unfamiliar.


    Plus then I gotta analyze / compare my setup...EXACTLY to make sure I'm offering accurate information... so questions arise like:

    1) is ARM = 64bit? (honestly gots no clue if it's one or either or both) or is it sufficient to write 'ARM' if I know that is processor in rPi4

    2) is raspberry pi 4 model.B with 8Gig RAM sufficient detail or too much detail

    3) Is the script received directly after login sufficient as signature? Linux raspberrypi 6.6.31+rpt-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.6.31-1+rpt1 (2024-05-29) aarch64. ... I mean, why exactly isn't that sufficient?

    ... the list of questions goes on so if there's an agreed upon structure to the requested "Please put your OMV system details in your signature."...please let me know.

    Plus if I could get confirmation as to next step of OMV setup from my previous post, I'd appreciate.


    Thank you

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    There's a layer of culture that noobs like myself don't see. I come across about 20 questions when attempting to add what this community calls "a signature" (eg. 'ryecoaaron' seems to have an elaborate one including plugins) while 'crashtest' doesn't seem to have one at all, yet is also a member of this community. Does this mean that 'crashtest' only moderates for certain issues, if at all? ... or is 'moderator' an attestation of trustworthiness full-stop. It's actually pretty confusing for those unfamiliar.

    A mod can do whatever they want with their sig. No rules. You are reading way too far into things and overthinking things. If you just follow what I have already told you and follow the rpi install guide like I linked and crashtest linked, you shouldn't have issues.


    1) is ARM = 64bit? (honestly gots no clue if it's one or either or both) or is it sufficient to write 'ARM' if I know that is processor in rPi4

    2) is raspberry pi 4 model.B with 8Gig RAM sufficient detail or too much detail

    3) Is the script received directly after login sufficient as signature? Linux raspberrypi 6.6.31+rpt-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.6.31-1+rpt1 (2024-05-29) aarch64. ... I mean, why exactly isn't that sufficient?

    ... the list of questions goes on so if there's an agreed upon structure to the requested "Please put your OMV system details in your signature."...please let me know.


    Plus if I could get confirmation as to next step of OMV setup from my previous post, I'd appreciate.

    Why are you super worried about these items now? I will answer for educational purposes but these shouldn't be something to worry about if you are trying to recover your system.


    1 - arm can be armel (32bit), armhf (32bit), arm64 (64bit).

    2 - rpi4 8gb is enough.

    3 - that is just the kernel version. most people will not care what kernel you are running on an rpi

    4 - rpi4 8gb omv7 is enough for sig.


    Confirmation of what? Follow the guide exactly. It works. Many, many hours have been put into it - https://wiki.omv-extras.org/do…omv7:raspberry_pi_install


    If your data drives are not connected, you have NOTHING to worry about. You can install many times without worry. So, don't worry about so much.

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  • I'll stop being the nervous nelly. From other reading in this forum, it seems to me that some members get agitated for less...I was just trying to be respectful and avoid transgressions of this community's guidelines which I'll admit I don't know.. just using common sense. Will keep posts brief as possible from now on.


    Should I connect 14TB drive(s) (with critical data) before or after Install OMV on rPi4 ? I've already done the ..raw/master/preinstall step WITHOUT drive(s) connected. I just did sudo reboot.


    Is there a way to permanently add signature to my posts (without copy pasting every time?)


    rpi4 8gb | omv7

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    Should I connect 14TB drive(s) (with critical data) before or after Install OMV on rPi4 ?

    OMV should always be installed with the data disks detached.


    I've already done the ..raw/master/preinstall step WITHOUT drive(s) connected. I just did sudo reboot.

    The preinstall script just configures the network adapter name. That's it.

    Is there a way to permanently add signature to my posts (without copy pasting every time?)

    In your user's control panel (fifth icon from the right in the top right), there is a "Manage your account" option and on that page, you will see a sig editor.

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  • Problem during Install OMV step.

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    [2024-08-30 12:53:48-0400] [omvinstall] IP address may change and you could lose connection if running this script via ssh.
    client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe

    I don't think rPi rebooted. Should I consider OMV install complete and successful?

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    I don't think rPi rebooted. Should I consider OMV install complete and successful?

    Rebooting isn't absolutely mandatory. You can move on to the next step in the guide.

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  • Ok, ostensibly installed OMV. I rebooted rPi and did update / upgrade again just in case. ip address did actually change again and I've noted as much.


    Before anything else please just tell me: is update / upgrade from command line sufficient to keep the whole OMV setup up to date and current? (Y or N is fine, I'll research why). Also what is path to maintain 'most stable possible' version of OMV? Do I get notified from a mailing list or something? or is there a monthly follow-up that I should be proactive about? My objective is simple: perform minimum steps possible to keep everything stable.


    After that, I assume it's now ok to plug at least one 14TB spinny drive into rPi, or should I setup / tweak OMV GUI from browser first? I'm anxious to get to my data of course.

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    is update / upgrade from command line sufficient to keep the whole OMV setup up to date and current?

    use omv-update if you want to use the command line.


    Also what is path to maintain 'most stable possible' version of OMV?

    By most stable do you mean latest?


    Do I get notified from a mailing list or something?

    If you have email notifications enabled, your system will let you know when it has updates. It will install security updates automatically.


    My objective is simple: perform minimum steps possible to keep everything stable

    The most stable system happens when an admin actively maintains it. So your goals somewhat conflict.

    I assume it's now ok to plug at least one 14TB spinny drive into rPi, or should I setup / tweak OMV GUI from browser first? I'm anxious to get to my data of course.

    It should be ok. I have no idea what you are going to do config-wise though. You had OMV setup before. It hasn't changed really.

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    The signature is a good way of determining what users have for hardware and plugins without having to ask every time a user posts.

    Look at it like this; you could say on an automotive forum "my car is broke". (We get a lot of that around here.)

    With a signature that says your car is a 2015 Dodge Charger, V8, Automatic, suddenly the statement "my car is broke" (while still completely inadequate) becomes a LOT more descriptive to a mechanic that supports the forum.

    While it was for a different reason, as I stated in my last post, we're attempting to provide better support and assistance. The forum's signature practice is a practical tool that assists forum supporters in helping forum users.

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    Where my signature is concerned, there are two considerations :


    1. In recent years, I haven't posted a question in the forum. Generally speaking, I can resolve my own server maintenance issues.

    2. I have a variety hardware, for documentation and testing purposes, and I'm running different versions of OMV. If I posted all of it, my signature would be long and confusing to the average user.

  • use omv-update if you want to use the command line.

    by omv-update do you mean the updates that are sometimes available from the browser dashboard of OMV? And if 'YES' then does this mean that my best chance at "set & forget" omv server maintenance is to check for updates every, say, month? And would this preclude ssh into rPi to sudo updates / upgrades? (periodic or otherwise)... it's these kind of details that drive me nuts.

    By most stable do you mean latest?

    I honestly don't know if you can't tell me. I guess if this forum exists it's because latest has bugs that are constantly being ironed-out. I mistakenly assumed omv would be like debian linux which has stable and testing versions. I'll always choose the former if possible.... or if you recommend "holding back" from the most recent version release. In fact this is related to omv-update from paragraph above. Will omv-update automatically upgrade to new omv versions? what is 'best practice' in this context?


    I'll search for the 'email notifications' in the dashboard (I guess) unless you're kind enough to point out exactly where it is. Does 'email notifications' advise re: stable v. latest?


    As for the works involving recovering data from my spinny drive(s):


    1. I've re-attached one of the two 14tb spinny drives.

    2. I've accessed omv7 thru browser and I've done & completed omv-update

    3. Then logged out of omv7 on browser and did a sudo reboot on rPi4 and subsequent sudo apt-get update / upgrade

    4. Then logged back into dashboard thru browser and YES! when I go into storage and disks I can see that it recognizes 14TB spinny drive.


    Please what's the most expedient way mount drive and 'share' (i.e. render accessible) contents already on there? Or point me to a post / article / video that specifically & explicitly assists.


    Thank you

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    by omv-update do you mean the updates that are sometimes available from the browser dashboard of OMV? And if 'YES' then does this mean that my best chance at "set & forget" omv server maintenance is to check for updates every, say, month? And would this preclude ssh into rPi to sudo updates / upgrades? (periodic or otherwise)... it's these kind of details that drive me nuts.

    omv-update basically just runs apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.

    this is the same thing the updates tab in the web interface will run.

    I would update at least monthly. you can do that via web interface or command line since they do the same thing.

    I honestly don't know if you can't tell me. I guess if this forum exists it's because latest has bugs that are constantly being ironed-out. I mistakenly assumed omv would be like debian linux which has stable and testing versions. I'll always choose the former if possible.... or if you recommend "holding back" from the most recent version release. In fact this is related to omv-update from paragraph above. Will omv-update automatically upgrade to new omv versions? what is 'best practice' in this context?

    stable and testing would be overkill. If you have a stable NAS, you aren't making changes very often which means OMV changes mean very little. Most OMV changes are improvements. I would just install updates using omv-update or the Updates tab and not overthink it.


    I'll search for the 'email notifications' in the dashboard (I guess) unless you're kind enough to point out exactly where it is. Does 'email notifications' advise re: stable v. latest?

    No offense but have you looked at the web interface? I understand I know it but it would save me plenty of time if you would just look at everything in the web interface. Email notifications are in the notifications tab. No email doesn't advice stable vs latest because there is no classification. I run many OMV production servers and always install all updates at least weekly.

    Please what's the most expedient way mount drive and 'share' (i.e. render accessible) contents already on there? Or point me to a post / article / video that specifically & explicitly assists.

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    With data already present on your external drive (and assuming you've hooked it up):

    In the GUI:
    Go to Storage, Shared Folders, and hit the Create button.

    - On the Name * line, give it a name. (The name should probably match the data folder's name but that's your call.)

    - On the next line Select a File System (in your case, there should be one.)
    - On the Relative Path * line, on the right side, there's an icon that looks like a directory structure. Click the icon, then navigate to and select one of your existing data folders.
    - If you're not sure about the Permissions * line use Everyone Read/Write.
    - Create an SMB share, according to -> this, using the shared folder above, in the Shared Folder * line.

    Repeat to create network shares for all of your old data folders.

  • I read thru the entire " new user " guide.


    I went to Storage, Shared Folders, Create

    I managed to give Share a name but it won't let me pick a filesystem.


    I know that previous (omv4) setup was ext4.


    I obviously won't follow 'wipe' instructions (from new user guide) as I'm trying to re instate existing drive with data on it.


    I mean, /dev/sda is visible under disks list.


    So I went to Storage, File Systems and I chose mount an existing file system in stead of create and mount a file system


    so now it seems that /dev/sda1 has been created and status says ONLINE


    so then I went to Storage, Shared Folders and added the share name that I recall from before and chose file system (was EXT4)


    So I then went to services smb/cifs, settings, share and followed guide instructions


    then waited 10 min.


    My linux rig, under network, does show: (raspberrypi-share name) on raspberrypi.local ... but folder is empty.


    On my iMac, raspberrypi - SMB/CIFS appears under network. And when I click on it the share name appears, and I click on that folder, but it's empty.


    Blocked here, please let me know.


    * If I could just somehow recuperate contents of drive as soon as possible I'd be really grateful, especially given that it's recognized by rPi4 *

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    Since I know you have had some exposure to OMV, I don't know what level of detail you were expecting.

    I assumed that you wouldn't:
    (1) wipe the drive
    or
    (2) format it.
    I assumed that you would:
    (3) mount it.

    After mounting the drive, the above instructions would have been applicable to finding existing data and sharing it to the network.
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    so then I went to Storage, Shared Folders and added the share name that I recall from before and chose file system (was EXT4)

    After selecting the filesystem in the (which should have been availalbe with a pop-down arrow:
    Did you do as instructed on the following line?

    - On the Relative Path * line, on the right side, there's an icon that looks like a directory structure. Click the icon, then navigate to and select one of your existing data folders.


    After you selected your file system:
    If you didn't do the above, click on the icon on the right hand side of the Relative path * line (shown below in the red box) and actually navigate to a data directory, you might have created a new (and empty) shared folder.



    With a filesystem selected, if you click that icon, you'll get a pop-down menu that will contain the directory structure at the root of the filesystem. You have to navigate to what you want to share and select that directory. (At that point, you could go back to the first line in the above screen, the name field, and name the share appropriately before saving it. Again, your call.)

    Then, following the remainder of the instructions above, share this particular shared folder, to the rest of the network using SMB.

  • YES! It worked. I guess I missed that instruction for browsing the tree structure under 'relative path'. YAAAYY!


    Now all I gotta do is setup the 2nd hard drive (with same capacity as 1st) to act as backup for this first spinny drive.


    If you can advise how best do this, I'd be grateful.


    Huge thanks to crashtest and ryecoaaron for all the great advice.. you've been more than helpful.

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    Now all I gotta do is setup the 2nd hard drive (with same capacity as 1st) to act as backup for this first spinny drive.


    If you can advise how best do this, I'd be grateful.


    In your case, I'd highly recommend using an Rsync mirror. Getting the initial command line right requires attention to detail but, after that, it can be made to work on autopilot. Further, restoring to the backup drive is documented and easy.


    The instructions for setting up are -> here.
    Better yet, start -> here and read the whole backup section

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