Low power but powerful enough MOBO suggestion

1. offizieller Beitrag

    Hello,


    I am trying to build a low power put powerful enough NAS.
    It is not meant to run VMs initially, but may in future 1/2
    There will be 4/5 disks of 2To in soft RAID 5.



    I was thinking of the intel i3-3220T with its 35W of TDP and 2 core of 2.8G but unsure if it could provide 50/60 Mo/s in RAID 5.
    I have see the E3-1265LV2 that is at 45W TDP but seems much more powerful, but also more expansive.


    Any suggestions/feedback?


    Also any ATX microATX suggestion? I try to avoid Asrock as had multiple issues with them.
    ASUS/ GIGABYTE?


    Thanks,
    Alex

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    An Atom cpu can easily provide 50/60 mb/s in Raid 5. So, the i3 will be much faster.


    Even though it is an Asrock, the motherboard in my sig has been flawless.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

    Low Power AND performace - that will never match ;)


    Have you heard of a HP Microserver N40L?


    Runs on my Home Network with RAID 5, writes 100MB/s and reads with 70MB/s to/from the SAMBA Share (thats, what i use)


    It needs (with 5 SATA HDDs) about 55Watt on load and currently idles with 25 (HDD Spindown).


    There are plenty experiences of the N40L with all OS (often MS Home Server, ESXi, ...)

    Yes already heard of the HP Microserver N40L but did not realize it could run anything and would be so fast.
    Definitely for 250€ you get a full hardware. Only thing is that it it hardly up-gradable (except RAM).


    Will look into it anyway or eventually the N54L.


    ryecoaaron, do you have some power measurements of your E3 system?


    Thanks

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    I think the N40L/N54L are a little weak for virtualization but I guess it depends on what type.


    My E3 system last night was pulling 133 watts according to the kill-a-watt. It has 11 drives (10 3.5"), 3 dvd drives, was streaming to two clients, and running a Windows XP VM. I'm also using a Rosewill 80 Plus Gold psu.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

    I have a Asus e35M1-I mobo with 8gb ram. It's running OMV with Subsonic, Minecraft, Owncloud and my solar monitor process. I am currently experimenting with running a wheezy VM installed with iRedMail/Roundcube as a KVM guest on it. Everything seems quite responsive - both processes, VM and OMV. I can saturate my Gb link even while the kids are playing 5 user Minecraft.


    With idle disks and no VM's it is consuming 17W - meassured on primary. I use a BeQuiet L7 350W power supply and a SSD disk as system disk.


    I don't know your excact needs but this mobo has 6 Sata III ports and the right combination of power/performance for me. I can allmost saturate the processor execution queue when the kids are playing Minecraft and I am using Ownclod uploads and at the same time copying several Gb af large files to the samba shares. Even in theses conditions I believe that the Gb network is the bottleneck.


    I have also tried a Intel D2700dc mobo but the atom D2700 processor was not up to the job. System became unresponsive and top show load values above 3 when i stressed the system as above. Funny since the Passmark test whos the D2700 has about 15% higher processor meassure than the E350. Maybe it's the implemenaton af mobo chipset or the drivers in Squeeze backports that I use.


    If the e350 (they a cheap presently) isn't powerfull enough maybe a mobo with the E450 or another low TDP CPU could be usefull.

    there are new C2550 based MB versions expected this Q1 e.g. from Supermicro featuring 6xsata


    alternatively have a look into Haswell - see here
    http://forums.openmediavault.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3437
    T4130T + 3x4TB RED and 4GB RAM is running below 40watts loaded
    idle and disk spun down I get 18.7 watts but this not end of the story ...


    all measured AC side

    OMV 5 | 64 bit | backport kernels | latest omvextrasorg
    low power Skylake NAS build <= 10 watts idle (4 disks), Fujitsu D3417-B, 16GB ECC RAM, 4x4TB WD Red - RAIDZ1, 128GB M.2 NVMe SSD boot.
    backup NAS HP Proliant N54L, 4GB ECC RAM, 4x4TB WD Red - RAID 5, 30GB SATA boot.

    Building my first OMV box here and am also very interested in using the C2550D4I or C2750D4I. Also looking for low power consumption but decent horsepower to run a basic RAID-1 setup.


    What is the status on these m/b's? Work? Limitations?

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    Still looking for a confirmation for the C2550D4I or C2750D4I m/b, if anyone happens to know.

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    C2550D4I is on sale...would like to know still.

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    They should definitely work with OMV 1.0...

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

    Not being familiar with anything other than the .5xxx releases, how I do get a 1.0x install?

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    Install minimal Debian 7.5 wheezy with all the package options unchecked using netinst image. Then:


    Code
    echo "deb http://packages.openmediavault.org/public kralizec main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/openmediavault.list
apt-get update
apt-get install openmediavault-keyring postfix
apt-get update
apt-get install openmediavault
omv-initsystem

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

    Nice! Thanks!

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    Have the motherboard temporarily mounted and powered.
    Looks like the i210 NICs are working. :) (Wheezy 7.6 and OMV-1.0.5)



    One weird issue though is that it is ID'ing the two NICs as eth1 and eth2. There's no eth0. Never seen this happen before. Not sure how to get eth0 to come back or if it even matters. :roll:


    At this point though, I have a Wheezy installation that includes X and Gnome3...as well as a lot of other useless crap that I don't want. (I simply used my OS drive that I was 'testing' on a regular spare computer, where I first got OMV running)
    So, I thought I'd go ahead and reinstall from scratch and get a clean, stripped down build. So I downloaded the netinstall iso and dd it to a USB drive. But, I can't get the m/b to boot from the USB drive. I've set the USB to the top boot order and also used the boot menu to manually specify that it should use USB to boot an OS. It just keeps going back to the hard drive and booting the original install. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here. **Don't have a spare SATA or USB optical drive to boot an ISO CD from either. No PATA ports on this m/b.


    Any idea when an official 1.0 OMV release will be out? Just wondering if I should wait for that instead of messing around with a Wheezy/OMV installation.

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    • Offizieller Beitrag
    Zitat von "ck42"

    One weird issue though is that it is ID'ing the two NICs as eth1 and eth2. There's no eth0. Never seen this happen before. Not sure how to get eth0 to come back or if it even matters. :roll:


    The following will cause the numbers to reset but you would have to reset the network settings using omv-firstaid.


    rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules


    Zitat von "ck42"

    Any idea when an official 1.0 OMV release will be out? Just wondering if I should wait for that instead of messing around with a Wheezy/OMV installation.


    The official release is the same thing that you are running now - wheezy and omv.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

    I deleted the udev rule and then ran the firstaid.
    The firstaid continues to behave as if only eth1 and eth2 exist though.

    OMV 2.2.13 (Stone burner) Kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 omvextrasorg 1.34
    Case: U-NAS NSC-200 , Power Supply: picoPSU-80, 80w , Mainboard: ASRock C2550D4I , CPU: INTEL Atom Quad Core 2.40 Ghz , DDR3:Crucial 4GB (1x CT51272BD160B) , OS: SSD Crucial MX100 128 GB , DATA: 2x WD Red WD30EFRX - 3 TB RAID-1 , NIC: (2x INTEL i210) , USB: Vantec USB3 UGT-PC312 PCI-e

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    You have to reboot before running omv-firstaid.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.1.6 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

Jetzt mitmachen!

Sie haben noch kein Benutzerkonto auf unserer Seite? Registrieren Sie sich kostenlos und nehmen Sie an unserer Community teil!

Benutzerkonto erstellen Anmelden