Useless SMART error is being alerted for NVMe drive

auanasgheps · Feb 20th 2020

Hi,
OMV5 (5.3.2-1) is logging a "useless" NVMe property that leads to scary SMART alert emails that make me worry for no reason.
Here is what I am talking about.

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This message was generated by the smartd daemon running on:


   host name:  [blip]
   DNS domain: [blop]


The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:


Device: /dev/disk/by-id/nvme-SPCC_M.2_PCIe_SSD_SerialNumberRemoved, number of Error Log entries increased from 40 to 42


Device info:
SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD, S/N:SerialNumberRemoved, FW:ECFM13.1, NSID:1, 256 GB


For details see host's SYSLOG.

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This drive is new, and I've checked its health with other tools, and obviously it's doing great.

The report is referring to Error Information Log Entries. A quick search reveals it is not due to the drive health.

Some interesting discussion here from bugs.debian.org.

I am no expert of this tool but does somebody know what could be done, like tellling the utility to ignore this value (maybe it's not NVMe aware)?
Honestly I want SMART enabled for this drive, but only for real warnings.

votdev · Feb 20th 2020

The issue must be fixed upstream (Debian or smartmontools). The OMV project can't do anything here. SImply create a filter rule in your email client that redirects those emails into trash in the meanwhile.

ryecoaaron · Feb 20th 2020

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Honestly I want SMART enabled for this drive, but only for real warnings.

Personally, I don't think you need smart for nvme especially if you leave some unpartitioned space on the drive. Most nvme drives are rated to write their entire capacity at least once a day for at least a few years. You should never hit this unless you are doing something crazy with it. If you just check the life left every six months after about 3 years, you would be probably know when it is going to need to be replaced.

auanasgheps · Feb 20th 2020

Quote from votdev

The issue must be fixed upstream (Debian or smartmontools). The OMV project can't do anything here. SImply create a filter rule in your email client that redirects those emails into trash in the meanwhile.

I already updated smartmontols to the actual latest version for another issue - wasn't detecting the NVMe drive for SMART reads, so it has something to do with Debian.

Quote from ryecoaaron

Personally, I don't think you need smart for nvme especially if you leave some unpartitioned space on the drive. Most nvme drives are rated to write their entire capacity at least once a day for at least a few years. You should never hit this unless you are doing something crazy with it. If you just check the life left every six months after about 3 years, you would be probably know when it is going to need to be replaced.

Thanks for this advice, I will leave some unpartitioned space on the drive, disable SMART reading and rely on the hdsentinel tool to send me scheduled emails.

d13m · Dec 22nd 2022

Today I added new controller Maiwo (sata ssd + nvme => pci-e) and noticed that I can see Smart info on OMV GUI only for sata ssd, for nvme it will be empty, but command

smartctl -x /dev/nvme0n1p1 will return me all info, of course I can from time to time get this info by bash script, but is it possible to see it on UI?

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I already updated smartmontols to the actual latest version for another issue - wasn't detecting the NVMe drive for SMART reads, so it has something to do with Debian.

How did you do that? Because I can see smartmontools is already the newest version (7.2-1).

ryecoaaron · Dec 22nd 2022

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but is it possible to see it on UI?

Did you look at the Storage -> SMART -> Devices -> Details -> Extended Information tab? I can see the smart output there.

d13m · Dec 22nd 2022

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Did you look at the Storage -> SMART -> Devices -> Details -> Extended Information tab? I can see the smart output there.

Yes, the same as I can see in terminal. I expected to see what I can see for other drives in Attributes tab. Is it possible?

ryecoaaron · Dec 22nd 2022

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Is it possible?

You didn't actually look at the output, did you? smart output from a regular drive shows a list of attributes and their values, While the nvme smart output has lots of info, there is no list of attributes and their values.

d13m · Dec 23rd 2022

Quote from ryecoaaron

You didn't actually look at the output, did you? smart output from a regular drive shows a list of attributes and their values, While the nvme smart output has lots of info, there is no list of attributes and their values.

of course I have looked at it, just from my windows (CrystalDiskInfo) experience I got used that everything displays the same and it doesn`t matter nvme or hdd.

ryecoaaron · Dec 23rd 2022

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just from my windows (CrystalDiskInfo) experience

Windows... yuck.

d13m · Dec 23rd 2022

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Windows... yuck.

Come on, great system, my main system for working and only when I have no electricity - I grub my macbook m1 to backpack and drive to village where I have starlink

auanasgheps · Dec 24th 2022

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How did you do that? Because I can see smartmontools is already the newest version (7.2-1).

If you look at the date, was a long time ago.
At the time we were running OMV5/Debian 10 which used an outdated version of smartmontools.

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