Hard disk is still running through

1. offizieller Beitrag

    I have already discussed this topic under How do I prevent hard drives from running when they are not needed? .


    It still does not work.

    I have set my 6 element hard disks under "Data storage => File systems=> Edit" from Advanced Power Management = 127 to 255 and the disks are still running through.


    The spin down time is 10 minutes and the smart check interval is 4500 and the power mode is on standby.



    Here is my system:


    inxi -Fxxxz


    System:

    Kernel: 6.1.0-18-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 console: pty pts/0

    Distro: openmediavault 7.0.2-2 (Sandworm) Base: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (Bookworm)

    Computer:

    Type: Desktop System: WYSE Product: Z CLASS v: Rev 1 serial: <Superuser required>

    Chassis: Inventec Type: 15 v: A serial: <Superuser required>

    Mobo: Inventec Model: Z CLASS v: A02 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Phoenix v: F3.0B

    Date: 29/10/2012

    CPU:

    Info: Dual-core model: AMD G-T56N Bits: 64 type: MCP smt: <unsupported> arch: Bobcat rev: 0

    Cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 1024 KiB

    Speed (MHz): avg: 1354 high: 1646 min/max: N/A Cores: 1: 1646 2: 1062 bogomips: 6585

    Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm

    Graphics:

    Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] Driver: radeon v: kernel arch: TeraScale-2 Ports:

    active: DVI-D-1 empty: DP-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:9806 class-ID: 0300

    Display: Server: No display server data found. Headless machine? tty: 185x26

    Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 Model: LG (GoldStar) L226WTQ serial: <filter> res: 1680x1050 dpi: 87

    Size: 474x296mm (18.66x11.65") diag: 585mm (23") Modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400

    API: N/A Message: No display API data available in the console. Headless machine?

    Audio:

    Device-1: AMD Wrestler HDMI Audio Driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.1

    Chip ID: 1002:1314 Class ID: 0403

    API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-18-amd64 status: kernel-api

    Network:

    Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie:

    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 1000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200

    IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>

    IF-ID-1: cni-podman0 state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: unknown mac: <filter>

    IF-ID-2: vethdb11d118 state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>

    Drives:

    Local Storage: total: 32.97 TiB used: 13.5 TiB (40.9%)

    ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SSD PLUS 240GB size: 223.57 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s

    type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 04RL scheme: GPT

    ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRX-00SPEB0 size: 3.64 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1065 scheme: GPT

    ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD80EZAZ-11TDBA0 size: 7.28 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1030 scheme: GPT

    ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0 size: 3.64 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1019 scheme: GPT

    ID-5: /dev/sde type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD80EDAZ-11TA3A0 size: 7.28 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1030 scheme: GPT

    ID-6: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD80EMAZ-00WJTA0 size: 7.28 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1021 scheme: GPT

    ID-7: /dev/sdg type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0 size: 3.64 TiB

    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: 1021 scheme: GPT

    Partition:

    ID-1: / size: 217.57 GiB used: 10.47 GiB (4.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2

    ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 148 KiB (0.0%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1

    Swap:

    ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 976 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3

    Sensors:

    Src: /sys System Temperatures: cpu: 64.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 67.0 C

    Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A

    Info:

    Processes: 182 Uptime: 6d 4h 16m wakeups: 1 Memory: 7.36 GiB used: 757 MiB (10.0%) Init: systemd

    v: 252 target: graphical (5) default: graphical Compilers: N/A Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 678

    Shell: sh running-in: pty pts/0 (SSH) inxi: 3.3.26


    Does anyone have any idea what could be causing the hard disks to cycle?


    Yours sincerely, R.Lehmeier



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    • Neu

    I've done everything I can think of, but I still have the same problem. The discs are still running.


    Now I found solutions for this in older postings. E.g. here :


    Thema
    Festplatte wechselt nicht mehr in den Standby
    Hallo,
    seit einer unbekannten Zeit wechselt die FEstplatte nicht mehr in den Standby. Sie hat es vorher definitiv mal nach 5 min gemacht, und ich denke, dass die Einstellungen auch immer noch passen.
    Ich habe eine Vermutung, dass es an der >80% Speicherbelegung liegen könnte... könnte das der Grund dafür sein?

    Wenn ich meinen Bananapi neu starte, fährt er anschließend herunter..
    Als regelmäßige Nutzung mache ich täglich Backups (Synchronisation => nur Änderungen) von meinem Laptop auf die…
    cheffe


    Beitrag
    RE: HDD Spindown Probleme
    hd-idle funktioniert super!!!
    Mit hdparm stieg der load_cycle_count kontinuierlich. Seit fast einer Woche läuft jetzt hd-idle und der load_cycle_count hat sich nicht erhöht.
    Gruß
    Macom
    macom


    Now my question is whether this problem still exists or whether it has been solved in the meantime, or whether I really have to carry out these procedures for each disc.

    • Neu

    Forget hdparm and just use hd-idle. Only hd-idle spins down harddrives reliably.


    Thema
    Auto-Spindown of hdd's does not work on OMV6
    Hi there,
    just a short (bug?) report

    autospindown on my hdd's does not work on my system
    parameters are set correct
    hdparm.conf looks fine
    (Versteckter Text)

    using hdparm -y /dev/sdx works fine, just the auto-spinoff does not.

    i had to install hd-idle to send the hdd's to sleep
    my /etc/default/hd-idle (time is unlike to hdparm in seconds here)
    (Versteckter Text)

    wsxws
    • Neu

    These postings were about hdparm and hd-idle getting in each other's way and therefore the parameters in the disks have to be switched off.


    Since my disks are constantly running and all previous attempts have failed, this was a possibility I was still considering.

    Why could the disks still be running - is there a way to read out the settings and post them here?


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    • Neu
    • Offizieller Beitrag

    You can download hd-idle here:


    GitHub - adelolmo/hd-idle: Hard Disk Idle Spin-Down Utility
    Hard Disk Idle Spin-Down Utility. Contribute to adelolmo/hd-idle development by creating an account on GitHub.
    github.com


    Thema
    [How-To] Spin-down hard drives with hd-idle

    INTRODUCTION

    If you like to spin-down your hard drives but you’re having trouble in doing so, you’re not alone.

    Not all hard drives like hdparm, the utility used by Debian and OpenMediaVault. There’s an alternative called hd-idle which does the job but introduces another issue: it will eventually fail if you use standby/hibernation on your server, plus other inconveniences.

    Hd-idle has been abandoned many years ago and was left in a buggy state, but we finally have a solution: a…
    auanasgheps

  • votdev

    Hat das Label OMV 7.x hinzugefügt.
    • Neu

    The OMV changelog reads:

    Code
    openmediavault (7.0.4-2) stable; urgency=low


* Replace hdparm with smartctl in UDEV helper script.

    Does this have anything to do with how drive spin downs are handled? If I am using the latest version of OMV and set up spin down times in the web UI, is this still done with hdparm? Or with smartctl? And if it has changed: Is hd-idle still the best option?

    Setting spin down times in the web ui doesn't seem to work with all of my drives...

    • Neu
    • Offizieller Beitrag
    Zitat von DonkeeeyKong

    Or with smartctl?

    yes



    Zitat von DonkeeeyKong

    Is hd-idle still the best option?

    if drives do not spin down with smartctl, try hd-idle


    however, there are other reasons why a drive does not spin down like access by some service like S.M.A.R.T if not configured properly

    • Neu
    Zitat von macom

    yes



    if drives do not spin down with smartctl, try hd-idle

    Thanks for confirming! I was going to give an update here: After I posted I found this issue and this commit, that showed that hdparm had been replaced by smartctl.

    I installed hd-idle last night and I am impressed. What had not been working before, works now with hd-idle apparently:

    One old WD drive that almost never gets used and that I couldn't get to spin down before, dropped its temperature from an average of 40° C to 25° C. All other drives are up to 10 degrees colder now. Even my 2 NVME-SSDs are about 3-5 degrees colder, probably because of the lower overall temperature. Everything, foremost the fans, is less noisy. I am very content. :)

    Zitat von macom

    however, there are other reasons why a drive does not spin down like access by some service like S.M.A.R.T if not configured properly

    Thank you. I selected "Standby" in the S.M.A.R.T power settings. This should prevent spun down drives from being woken up, if I understand that correctly?

    • Neu

    Today I had the chance to test whether the smart settings are responsible for this problem.

    When I turn them off, the disks do not start.

    When I turn them on (1800 seconds and standby) they run, when I turn off the smart settings the disks stay quiet.

    What do I have to set where so that the disks are polled without starting?

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