Upgrade from 4 to 6

  • Hi everyone!


    I have been away from the forum for quite a while because my OMV 4 NAS is running flawlessly :). I'm well aware of "never change a running system", but I think it is time that I move to OMV 6. Quick info about my system


    230GB Partitioned NVMe boot drive with second partition working as storage drive

    3x 8TB WD Red running Snapraid (2x Data, 1x Parity... duh)

    Docker plugin with containers like (sonarr, radarr, transmission)

    Flashmemory plugin

    hd-idle

    FTP plugin

    Letsencrypt plugin

    HomeAssistant running as VM in Virtualbox


    Intel i3-8100T

    16GB Memory


    I'm not trying to find out if all of these services and plugins can run on OMV 6 and whats the best way to get there. Complete fresh install? Upgrading to 5 and then from 5 to 6? Can I backup all the shared folder and users and it's settings as well? How do I backup all the docker container configs? Will Snapraid be able to understand the running config or will it have to start from scratch on the parity drive? Whats the easiest way to backup and restore my boot drive for emergency cases? dd?


    Thanks a lot for some input and suggestions!

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    I would make a clone/image of the OS drive and then try to upgrade from 4 to 5 and then 5 to 6



  • wow, I'm working woth version 5 for a long time, and I'm thinking aldo to migrate the system to the new release 6... but with a fresh installation.

    The system is working in a little Nuk, with an Intel Pentium J4205 1.50Ghz with 8Gb RAM, where I'm running a some Dockers (JellyFin, NoIp, Transmisssion, and something else) and a Sharefile system, and it works fine for me, I assume that it will be enought to run the same configuration with version 6.... Happy to read that OMW Extras still alive for version 6.


    Shinobi, waiting you comments about if your update will be success!!!

  • I would make a clone/image of the OS drive and then try to upgrade from 4 to 5 and then 5 to 6



    Thanks a lot. I have this post already saved in my favourite. I assume I have to move to Portainer for docker, right?

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    The docker plugin has not been ported. You can use Portainer, Yacht, or just CLI. Up do to you.

    If you know the docker plugin, you will find it easy to use the GUI of Portainer.

    I prefer to use docker-compose files in Portainer (stacks), though.

  • The docker plugin has not been ported. You can use Portainer, Yacht, or just CLI. Up do to you.

    If you know the docker plugin, you will find it easy to use the GUI of Portainer.

    I prefer to use docker-compose files in Portainer (stacks), though.

    Ok I understand, but that means that I need to backup and restore my container configs by hand, correct?

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    If you want full control from Portainer yes.


    If you do the upgrade and install Portainer the container will be visible in Portainer and can do certain changes. You could actually install Portainer now and see how it looks like with your current setup of docker.

  • For your own sanity, go for a fresh install.

    Most plugins have changed, deprecated or even merged.


    And yes, you WILL face issues after the upgrade(s). It's less time consuming to grab existing configurations, do a snapshot just in case and start from scratch.

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  • For your own sanity, go for a fresh install.

    Most plugins have changed, deprecated or even merged.


    And yes, you WILL face issues after the upgrade(s). It's less time consuming to grab existing configurations, do a snapshot just in case and start from scratch.

    Somehow this seems to be still the easiest option. What about my data drives? Will OMV see the existing data on it?

  • I saw that I have an unused nvme laying around. My plan is to replace them and install OMV on this one and keep the current one as my OMV4 backup. Once everything is up and running, the old drive will be wiped and serve as a fast storage on my NAS.


    I hope that will make sense and I should be able to go back to my initial config quick easily

  • Somehow this seems to be still the easiest option. What about my data drives? Will OMV see the existing data on it?

    Don't worry about your data drives, they can be carried over.

    OMV BUILD - MY NAS KILLER - OMV 6.x + omvextrasorg (updated automatically every week)

    NAS Specs: Core i3-8300 - ASRock H370M-ITX/ac - 16GB RAM - Sandisk Ultra Flair 32GB (OMV), 256GB NVME SSD (Docker Apps), 2x16TB HDDs w/ SnapRAID - Fractal Design Node 304 - Be quiet! Pure Power 11 350W


    My all-in-one SnapRAID script!

  • Don't worry about your data drives, they can be carried over.

    Fresh install is done. Data drives mapped without issues and some basic settings are also applied. The process was actually quite simple, but I still need to all the docker stuff and I saw that there is no more letsencrypt plugin, which is a shame. I guess I have to containerize that as well, right?

  • Fresh install is done. Data drives mapped without issues and some basic settings are also applied. The process was actually quite simple, but I still need to all the docker stuff and I saw that there is no more letsencrypt plugin, which is a shame. I guess I have to containerize that as well, right?

    Yes. Most of the complex/application plugins are containers now, and for a good reason.

    If you don't know anything about docker, here on the forum there are excellent beginner guides!


    Happy to know the fresh install went smoothly.

    OMV BUILD - MY NAS KILLER - OMV 6.x + omvextrasorg (updated automatically every week)

    NAS Specs: Core i3-8300 - ASRock H370M-ITX/ac - 16GB RAM - Sandisk Ultra Flair 32GB (OMV), 256GB NVME SSD (Docker Apps), 2x16TB HDDs w/ SnapRAID - Fractal Design Node 304 - Be quiet! Pure Power 11 350W


    My all-in-one SnapRAID script!

  • Fresh install is done. Data drives mapped without issues and some basic settings are also applied. The process was actually quite simple, but I still need to all the docker stuff and I saw that there is no more letsencrypt plugin, which is a shame. I guess I have to containerize that as well, right?

    letsencrypt docker is now called swag: https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/swag

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    I saw that there is no more letsencrypt plugin, which is a shame

    It doesn't make sense to be a plugin anymore. With the integration that swag has (mentioned by raulfg3), it would be a pain to use the plugin generated certs in containers.


    Most of the complex/application plugins are containers now

    Most? You would've thought my job maintaining plugins would've got easier since I was dropping the "hard" plugins. Almost none of the plugins I've stopped maintaining were complex. borg, kvm, luks, mergerfs, remotemount, tgt, wireguard, zfs are by far more complex than any plugin not maintained anymore.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.2 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


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  • Almost none of the plugins I've stopped maintaining were complex

    I'm sorry for this pal. I hear your pain about plug-ins every time we talk about them!

    OMV BUILD - MY NAS KILLER - OMV 6.x + omvextrasorg (updated automatically every week)

    NAS Specs: Core i3-8300 - ASRock H370M-ITX/ac - 16GB RAM - Sandisk Ultra Flair 32GB (OMV), 256GB NVME SSD (Docker Apps), 2x16TB HDDs w/ SnapRAID - Fractal Design Node 304 - Be quiet! Pure Power 11 350W


    My all-in-one SnapRAID script!

    • Offizieller Beitrag

    I hear your pain about plug-ins every time we talk about them!

    Sorry that I mention it that often. I would love to not hear about the downloader plugins ever again. I was hoping that if the compose plugin's sample compose files were good enough, people wouldn't struggle with docker or portainer.

    omv 7.0.5-1 sandworm | 64 bit | 6.8 proxmox kernel

    plugins :: omvextrasorg 7.0 | kvm 7.0.13 | compose 7.2 | k8s 7.1.0-3 | cputemp 7.0.1 | mergerfs 7.0.4


    omv-extras.org plugins source code and issue tracker - github - changelogs


    Please try ctrl-shift-R and read this before posting a question.

    Please put your OMV system details in your signature.
    Please don't PM for support... Too many PMs!

  • Thanks for all the help and feedback. I installed wireguard and it works perfect for my phone, but on my work Laptop I need to switch to the Admin account, to get the UI interface... For that I would like to stick to openvpn. Can someone point me at a recent docker image for that? The one from linuxserver is not maintained anymore...

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